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garys_2k
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reply to 07108968

Re: Can an ISP Employee Spy on Me at Will?

said by 07108968:

If person is THAT paranoid, they should never connect to Internet, or have cable TV for that matter.

Well, there are legit. reasons. Business secrets, political issues in other countries, that sort of thing. Even a person involved in an abusive relationship, where their spouse works for their ISP, should use a VPN (but then that abusive spouse would still know that their house's IP was connected to a known-VPN site's IP, so abuse would likely follow).


Blackbird
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said by garys_2k:

said by 07108968:

If person is THAT paranoid, they should never connect to Internet, or have cable TV for that matter.

... political issues in other countries, that sort of thing. ... (but then ... would still know that their house's IP was connected to a known-VPN site's IP ...

Especially that. Connect to a known VPN or anonymizer proxy IP in several countries, and you may at least "go on a list". And if the person's already on other "lists", it may qualify them for a 4am visit from the door-kickers. Though that's apparently not the risk here...
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StuartMW
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said by Blackbird:

And if the person's already on other "lists", it may qualify them for a 4am visit from the door-kickers.

Well they'll visit you in a windowless grey van first and sit outside with monitoring equipment for awhile. The next step is to put you under active surveillance. The third step is to kick down the door at 4am.

Of course you might not notice steps one and two
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said by StuartMW:

said by Blackbird:

And if the person's already on other "lists", it may qualify them for a 4am visit from the door-kickers.

Well they'll visit you in a windowless grey van first and sit outside with monitoring equipment for awhile. The next step is to put you under active surveillance. The third step is to kick down the door at 4am.

Of course you might not notice steps one and two

In certain Mideastern and Asian countries, the use of VPN's and anonymizing proxies is often what persons resort to if they've observed something going on akin to your first two steps (or other steps like them)... and it's that popping-up of anonymous communications IPs that finally ices them. It's happened just that way to more than one of them, which is why advice about how to make use of anonymizers or VPNs needs to be given with a caveat.
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StuartMW
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said by Blackbird:

In certain Mideastern and Asian countries...

True enough. And in many of those same countries saying the wrong thing to the wrong person/people will result in similar treatment, The US is not to that point--yet.
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Dude111
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Im afraid it is Stu!!!

Say the wrong thing OUT OF SPITE to the wrong person and see what "freedom of speech" really has come to here!