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Shootist
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reply to BlitzenZeus

Re: Package systems, crapware, and issues

Well a friend bought a Dell XPS 8500 about a month ago and I set it up for him with a SSD and used the original drive as a storage drive. Had no problem. But it did come with Win 7 and not Win 8.

Personally I haven't had any problems with Dell computers for the last 20 years. Both at home with notebooks and at work with many Dell systems over the years. In fact I can't remember any of them failing.

We are in a New Era with EFI and Secure Boot. You know that may be it. Does the EFI have a setting for Secure Boot? If it does turn that off and see if you can then install that old drive and boot the PC.
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BlitzenZeus
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I couldn't have booted the live nix cd with secure boot enabled, and yes secure boot was enabled by default.

During the initial troubleshooting I turned off secure boot to see if it was a factor, and it wasn't.

At any rate I'll be able to confirm if the system boots with the old drive in a day, or two. I'll pull the info off the os partition, and do a simple test of killing the os partition. It would seem that even if the drive is legacy/mbr it shouldn't matter, but for some reason because there is more than one windows boot loader seems to be the entire problem, even if the bios shouldn't be reading the bootloader from anything other than the first hdd in the sequence.
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BlitzenZeus
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Made a quick trip out tonight as I already had to go out, and tested a theory I had. Moved the data over, and made the disk one big non-bootable ntfs partiton, and Win 8 booted up fine with it as a storage drive.

Since it would only take a few minutes I booted into the live nix cd with the win 8 drive disconnected, and let it install to their old drive. On reboot nix worked fine, and then I proceeded to shutdown to reconnect the win 8 drive. Win 8 again showed that it wanted to repair the install possibly due to there was an operating system on another drive, or the partition types. Nix had made two partitions, one big bootable partition for the os, and a swap partition. So I deleted the partitions on the old drive, made it one big ntfs legacy/mbr partition again, recopied their non-os files back to the old drive for redundancy, and called it a day. I'm done on this issue for the day, this seems like a very silly issue.

I'd like to see how a clean install of a win 8 goes with uefi, and if it has the same problems without all those oem/restore partitions, however I can't do that at the moment.
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I distrust those people who know so well what god wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires- Susan B. Anthony
Yesterday we obeyed kings, and bent out necks before emperors. But today we kneel only to the truth- Kahlil G.