 CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to Kearnstd
Re: Theoretical Question Nope - run flats instead to save room and weight. It is a huge issue in the BMW CCA right now - had 5-8 letters on the dipstick and spare issue for at least 5 months this year.
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| said by CylonRed:Nope - run flats instead to save room and weight. But not to save money!  |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Lone Wolf
if you own a BMW money is a nil issue for you so the expense of a run flat is nothing at all.
I guess I never think of a spare effecting a car that much. 2000 Impala I had before my current car had one and no impact on trunk space it was still a 4 body rated trunk.
Wonder why they left out the dipstick though, 3oz of thin metal are not going to improve performance by being left out.
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| said by Kearnstd:if you own a BMW money is a nil issue for you so the expense of a run flat is nothing at all.
Glad to hear. My troubles are over. |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to Kearnstd
Not necessarily - depends on how you get the car. I have a friend that has his dads 911 when his dad suddenly passed away. He rarely takes it out due to the expense of the parts/maintenance.
Run flat technology has gotten better in recent years but early on they were horrible and they were not cheap to replace. Not necessarily cheap now...
Saving the weight was probably the #1 reason to skip the spare and not having to stock a bunch of spare tires/wheels (and not lowering the price of the car) was the #2...
I can't find any good reason for no dipsticks but BMW is not alone in this... Sensors are just as good... till they fail.
Then again I think every car should have a timing chain and can't understand why they are not used exclusively (I usually catch flak on that whenever I mention it here).
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| said by CylonRed:Then again I think every car should have a timing chain and can't understand why they are not used exclusively (I usually catch flak on that whenever I mention it here).
My Accord has a timing chain (and a spare tire!). EDIT: And a dipstick (besides the driver ). |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | The one thing I hated about my Civic and hate about our Odyssey... Timing belts. |
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said by Kearnstd:if you own a BMW money is a nil issue for you so the expense of a run flat is nothing at all.
To quote one of the guys in a BMW forum - "just because you can afford to buy a BMW doesn't mean you can afford to own one"
To the OP, I find it hard to imagine any high end car that won't come with high end maintenance. It is just the nature of the beast. |
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| said by grobinette:To quote one of the guys in a BMW forum - "just because you can afford to buy a BMW doesn't mean you can afford to own one" Isn't that why leases were invented? |
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And here's one reason I never bought a used Ferrari. I had a chance to pick up a 1990's Berlinetta for under $30,000 a few years ago. It had just under 30K miles and was due for the 30,000 mile service. Just too much money for maintenance.
»www.ferraris-online.com/pages/ar···00612_SS
Can You Afford $10.27 per Mile?
Only weeks into Ferrari ownership, the 30,000-mile service was repeated and the front shocks were replaced, for a total of $6,196.57
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New Jersey | quote:
The windshield washer reservoir was also replaced for $529.25.
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | holy crap. That reservoir better be carbon fiber hand crafted by NASA.
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to Lone Wolf
One of the major reason I had friends who could afford E30, E36 M3's and a E46 ZHP, is that they wrenched on the cars themselves.
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | reply to Kearnstd
You pay for the name... Might be cheaper online - part of that is dealer added costs which are not insubstantial...
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said by Bob:I saw two Lamborghinis this week. Pretty unusual, since it's normal to go over a year without seeing one.
Well, chalk up one more difference between Jersey and California!  |
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Mercedes E550, or E63, (E63 would be my choice) and BMW M5 are just three of the better choices. (Most cars that are physically and performance wise close to those cars would be a good choice.) |
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said by Kearnstd:Wonder why they left out the dipstick though, There's generally one behind the steering wheel? |
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said by CylonRed:One of the major reason I had friends who could afford E30, E36 M3's and a E46 ZHP, is that they wrenched on the cars themselves.
I have a problem with today's nomenclature the manufacturers use. When I was a kid it was easy to know what people were talking about when they mentioned a car name.
Example: We had 3 choices when buying a Chevy, It was an Impala, BelAir or Biscayne. Caddys had a Fleetwood, Coupe DeVille, Sedan DeVille and Eldorado. There were sub-groupings but they were limited when compared to today.
Today I must learn the difference between a E63, E36, M3, X5, X6, FX50, S, SL, SLK, xDrive, iDrive, etc. When learning about the different vehicles that meet my criteria I tried to use Autotrade.com and use advanced options to get close. I can filter my results from there but it still confounds me. It's not too difficult when looking for a new car, but when the names change yearly and you want a used car and aren't up to date on all of the models it's tough.
Check out BMW:
1 Series (F20) (2011–present) Hatchback
1 Series (E81) (2004–present) Coupe and convertible
3 Series (F30) (2012–present) Sedan
3 Series (E90) (2005–present) Sedans
3 Series (E92) (2007-present) Coupe
5 Series (F10) (2010–present) Sedan and Wagon
5 Series Gran Turismo (2009–present) Progressive Activity Sedan
6 Series (F12) (2010–present) Coupe, convertible, Gran Coupe
7 Series (F01) (2008–present) Sedan
X1 (2009–present) Compact Crossover SUV/Sports Activity Vehicle (SAV)
X3 (F25) (2010–present) Compact Crossover SUV/Sports Activity Vehicle (SAV)
X5 (E70) (2006–present) Compact Crossover SUV/Sports Activity Vehicle (SAV)
X6 (2008–present) Sports Activity Coupe
Z4 (E89) (2009–present) Sports Roadster  |
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CylonRedPremium,MVM
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Bloom County | Yea - E designation is not what BMW goes by or sells by - most owners have NO idea if their car is a E46 or E92 or FX xx.... For people who do know the designations - it is a quick and easy way to refer to an entire line during a time frame.
IMHO BMW is just going to kill themselves over all of the lines they currently have. Can hardly wait for a 1.5 series...
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Copy/Paste from wikipedia:
The BMW New Class starting in 1962 with the 1500 and continuing through the last 2002s in 1977. four-cylinder M10. 02 Series 1600 and 2002 in 1966. New Class four-doors with numbers ending in "0" were replaced by the larger BMW 5 Series in 1972. The upscale 2000C and 2000CS coupes were replaced by the six-cylinder BMW E9, introduced in 1969 with the 2800CS. The 1600 two-door was discontinued in 1975, the 2002 replaced by the 320i in 1975.  |
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