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motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

let the speculation begin!

»www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n···eed.html

Kansas city is going to be the first TWC system to see 100Mbps!

lite going from 1Mbps down to 5Mbps down
basic going from 3Mbps down to 10Mbps down
turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down
extreme going from 30Mbps down to 50Mbps down
Ultimate going from 50Mbps down to 100Mbps down

hmm I see this coming to all areas that are going to 8 down DOCSIS channels:

Time frame for the the 8 channel bonding:

Dallas Texas (6 going to 8 in Q1 2013)
Austin Texas (late december to Q1 2013)
Waco Texas (same as Austin Texas)
San Antonio Texas (Q1 2013)
Wichita Falls Texas (Q1 2013)
NC/SC systems (except Charlotte and surrounding areas which is delayed until further notice) (late december or Q1 2013)
Kansas City (Already 8 down 1 up)
NY/ME/NH Systems (already happened or is happening late december or Q1 2013)
Los Angeles 6 channels already (don't know about channels 7 and 8 on the downstream)
NYC 6 channels already 7th and 8th channel soon possibly as there has been rumblings of TWC clearing room for the 7th and 8th downstream channels in NYC)



mackey
Premium
join:2007-08-20
kudos:11

said by motorola870:

turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down

They made that change months ago.

said by motorola870:

Los Angeles 6 channels already (don't know about channels 7 and 8 on the downstream)

False, we only have 4.

All in all, I'm more interested in what's gonna happen with upload speeds...

/M

scififan68

join:2010-10-02
Fremont, NE
reply to motorola870

This is what competition looks like, and upgrading to 8 downstream channels shouldn't take as long as it took to get Docsis 3 to all areas. But I'm sure my division will be last once more, Lol



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3
reply to mackey

said by mackey:

said by motorola870:

turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down

They made that change months ago.

said by motorola870:

Los Angeles 6 channels already (don't know about channels 7 and 8 on the downstream)

False, we only have 4.

All in all, I'm more interested in what's gonna happen with upload speeds...

/M

someone in LA said they had 6 so that was what I am going by. You might not have 6 yet but if it was anything like Dallas the roll out is staggered and it does not happen in one night of upgrades it took 3 weeks to do the Dallas system hubs.

The change is probably to upgrade the legacy turbo subscribers that did not get the 20Mbps upgrade like new customers did when they upgraded the tier. Although the Dallas Texas system had already given 20x2 for all turbo subs.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3
reply to scififan68

said by scififan68:

This is what competition looks like, and upgrading to 8 downstream channels shouldn't take as long as it took to get Docsis 3 to all areas. But I'm sure my division will be last once more, Lol

not likely I have a feeling Nebraska will be in 2013 sometime.


djrobx
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Valencia, CA
kudos:2
Reviews:
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reply to motorola870

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Los Angeles 6 channels already (don't know about channels 7 and 8 on the downstream)

LIES!
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motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

Click for full size
don't kill the messenger I saw it on of the other thread here a broadband reports some was asked if they had downstream bonding and they said yes they had 6 and their location said LA so that was what I was going by.

this is what I have in Dallas on SBG6580 with 30 down 5 up

I have a feeling that the downstream channels in my area will be moved out of the cell phone band come next month or early february when we have analog removals as I have had errors in the 780MHz to 816MHz range which is right in the middle of the cell bands not to mention TWC is going to have to reorganize anyway because SDV is from 735MHz to 771MHz and 819MHz to 861MHz leaving no room for a 7th or 8th DOCSIS channel.

thorin

join:2007-11-08
Liberty, MO
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to motorola870

said by motorola870:

»www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n···eed.html

Kansas city is going to be the first TWC system to see 100Mbps!

lite going from 1Mbps down to 5Mbps down
basic going from 3Mbps down to 10Mbps down
turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down
extreme going from 30Mbps down to 50Mbps down
Ultimate going from 50Mbps down to 100Mbps down

hmm I see this coming to all areas that are going to 8 down DOCSIS channels:

Time frame for the the 8 channel bonding:

Dallas Texas (6 going to 8 in Q1 2013)
Austin Texas (late december to Q1 2013)
Waco Texas (same as Austin Texas)
San Antonio Texas (Q1 2013)
Wichita Falls Texas (Q1 2013)
NC/SC systems (except Charlotte and surrounding areas which is delayed until further notice) (late december or Q1 2013)
Kansas City (Already 8 down 1 up)
NY/ME/NH Systems (already happened or is happening late december or Q1 2013)
Los Angeles 6 channels already (don't know about channels 7 and 8 on the downstream)
NYC 6 channels already 7th and 8th channel soon possibly as there has been rumblings of TWC clearing room for the 7th and 8th downstream channels in NYC)

Lite has already changed to 5/1
Basic has as well to 10/1
Standard went to 15/1
The Old Turbo (15/1) went to 20/2
Turbo changing soon
Extreme soon
Ultimate soon

All the hubs are bonded 8 down and maybe 1/4 of them are bonded on 4 up.

Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2

It'll be nice. The only thing that's changed in the carolinas is the standard which is 15/1 now. Are they boosting uploads any?


thorin

join:2007-11-08
Liberty, MO

I haven't heard anything for other areas but I'm guessing they will once an entire division is at 8 Bonded down and 4 Bonded up. Turbo will be changing here though for upload.



AMDUSER
Premium
join:2003-05-28
Earth,
kudos:1
reply to Fleeced

That sounds like the Midwest (Milwaukee,WI area) as well...



Suit Up

join:2003-07-21
Los Angeles, CA
reply to motorola870

So... 100 Mbps down, 5 Mbps up? That's a great way to compete with symmetric 1 Gbps. Somebody needs to learn these cable companies that, with things like the cloud and youtube nowadays, we need faster upload speeds.


Nemrosim

join:2012-05-10
reply to motorola870

Wells thats great news, what about other parts of texas that are getting wideband, nothing for us?


VanNuysBear

join:2005-06-14
Panorama City, CA
reply to djrobx

I'm in LA (SFV) and have 7 downstream.

Downstream Bonded Channels
Channel Lock Status Modulation Channel ID Frequency Power SNR Correctables Uncorrectables
1 Locked QAM256 7 669000000 Hz 1.5 dBmV 40.1 dB 0 0
2 Locked QAM256 1 705000000 Hz 1.2 dBmV 39.5 dB 0 0
3 Locked QAM256 2 699000000 Hz 1.4 dBmV 39.6 dB 0 0
4 Locked QAM256 3 693000000 Hz 1.0 dBmV 39.9 dB 0 0
5 Locked QAM256 4 687000000 Hz 1.2 dBmV 39.9 dB 0 0
6 Locked QAM256 5 681000000 Hz 1.5 dBmV 39.9 dB 0 0
7 Locked QAM256 6 675000000 Hz 1.5 dBmV 40.3 dB 0 0
8 Not Locked Unknown 0 0 Hz 0.0 dBmV 0.0 dB 0 0


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3
reply to Nemrosim

said by Nemrosim:

Wells thats great news, what about other parts of texas that are getting wideband, nothing for us?

TWC is slowly working throughout Texas doing the upgrades. Right now they have scheduled changes for january to drop several analogs in:

San Antonio (cluster wide) 1-29-13
Dallas (cluster wide) 1-22-13
Fredericksburg 1-29-13
Wichita Falls 1-22-13
El Paso 1-29-13

to allow for the faster speeds on the internet.

nephipower

join:2012-02-20
San Antonio, TX

Nice I like the sound of that. I am in San Antonio.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

said by nephipower:

Nice I like the sound of that. I am in San Antonio.

the changes to the internet won't happen the same night. Likely they will move the digital QAM carriers around on that date. The Dallas cluster had the QAMs rearranged when we went from 4 to 6 downstream channels for the internet.

Waco and austin are already making changes to the QAM carriers as they have put some of the basic channels that were SDV on to a QAM that is static and does not change so they can launch the HD DTA's. Also Waco has moved TBS HD from 75 (531MHz) to 41 (327MHz) to allow for TWC to use the analog space on 71 to 76 for digital services starting on the 18th of this month in the austin and waco clusters.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3
reply to VanNuysBear

Well TWC could add an 8th downstream channel in LA if they got rid of the QAM that is carrying the GAME1 HD and GAME2 HD channels in the former comcast areas and move them to SDV.



bluepoint

join:2001-03-24
reply to motorola870

said by motorola870:

»www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n···eed.html

Kansas city is going to be the first TWC system to see 100Mbps!

lite going from 1Mbps down to 5Mbps down
basic going from 3Mbps down to 10Mbps down
turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down
extreme going from 30Mbps down to 50Mbps down
Ultimate going from 50Mbps down to 100Mbps down

I'll give you an incomplete grade for not reporting the upload speeds.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

1 recommendation

said by bluepoint:

said by motorola870:

»www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n···eed.html

Kansas city is going to be the first TWC system to see 100Mbps!

lite going from 1Mbps down to 5Mbps down
basic going from 3Mbps down to 10Mbps down
turbo going from 15Mbps down to 20Mbps down
extreme going from 30Mbps down to 50Mbps down
Ultimate going from 50Mbps down to 100Mbps down

I'll give you an incomplete grade for not reporting the upload speeds.

I don't deserve a grade I cheated and copied

they didn't say the upload speeds.

But I have heard something about 10Mbps upload for extreme and 25Mbps upload for ultimate. My area could potentially support those speeds but would probably need to change 2 of the upstreams to 6.4MHz wide channels to be able to support the speeds.


DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
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1 edit
reply to motorola870

I'm in Kansas City and after our upgrade 2 weeks ago, my speeds are horrendous.

I'm on 20/1 and get 6/1 during peak times ( even worse right after the upgrade, 0.5/1 with 300+ms pings )

100mbit/s is a pipe dream for Time Warner in this area.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

said by DataRiker:

I'm in Kansas City and after our upgrade 2 weeks ago, my speeds are horrendous.

I'm on 20/1 and get 6/1 during peak times ( even worse right after the upgrade, 0.5/1 with 300+ms pings )

100mbit/s is a pipe dream for Time Warner in this area.

they will have to do node splits I am sure have you made sure something is not wrong on your end? Have you complained?


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3
reply to DataRiker

you wouldn't happen to only have a DOCSIS 2.0 modem would you? that would make a difference as you are less likely to have congestion if you have a DOCSIS 3.0 modem.



DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

2 edits
reply to motorola870

Yes I complained. Yes I have a DOCSIS 2 modem. That should not mean I can't get even half of my advertised speeds.

Before the upgrade I got a rock solid 15/1 day or night.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm considering ATT DSL, as they offer 6 meg service here.



motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

no you can't buy a VoIP modem but you can buy a SB6141 or Zoom 5341J and have TWC turn the internet off on VoIP modem and put 2 way a splitter in and you would actually have the $4 modem fee removed.



DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

1 recommendation

said by motorola870:

no you can't buy a VoIP modem but you can buy a SB6141 or Zoom 5341J and have TWC turn the internet off on VoIP modem and put 2 way a splitter in and you would actually have the $4 modem fee removed.

Yea, I removed my comment after I realized this. Its absolutely ridiculous.

I think its better at this point to just jump ship.

My speeds are back up a little, but my pings are too high.


swintec
Premium,VIP
join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:5
reply to DataRiker

What is the model of your modem? Is it even on there supported list anymore?
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DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

Good question. Its a Motorola surboard SBV5220



swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:5
Reviews:
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said by DataRiker:

Good question. Its a Motorola surboard SBV5220

Does not appear it is supported any longer.

»www.timewarnercable.com/en/resid···dem.html

If you are renting it, swap it out for no charge. Maybe even ask for a separate unit for HSI and then just keep your phone adapter.

EDIT- Actually, being a combo unit maybe it wouldnt show on the approved device list.
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antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to motorola870

said by motorola870:

you wouldn't happen to only have a DOCSIS 2.0 modem would you? that would make a difference as you are less likely to have congestion if you have a DOCSIS 3.0 modem.

Is that only during peak hours? I have an old Ambit/Ubee U10C018 cable modem. It is slower during peak hours. I assume everyone is hogging the faster speeds since the speed upgrades.