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R.A. Dickey may be close to being a Blue Jay

JP Arencibia will likely be the asking price. Along with a couple more prospects. A real painful loss. Not that JP is the best catcher in baseball, but he is very Canadianized -- he wants to be in Toronto like no other player. He's very good with the kids at sick children's. He's also a guys guy because whenever he breaks his hand he doesn't act like a girl, like how A-Rod acted when he broke his hand.

However...

Having 6 starters in the line-up..and by that, 6 guys that have some decent quality that, will make this team hard to hit against. The Jays have sufficient hitting, and with D'Arnaud on the way in, Jays don't really need two top notch catching. I believe D'Arnaud is the legacy of Harry (Roy) Doc Halladay.
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein

The Mets will get D'Arnaud, not JP.

Well, JP for Dickey is a trade I think most Blue Jay fans could live with.

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I don't like losing either guy, especially since D'Arnaud, if all the hype is correct, is a true blue chip elite start. The type of man that can make a team. Dickey doesn't have a lot of years left. Though if the Jays can get another 4 or 5 out of him, at quality, then it might be okay. He tosses knuckleball, which throws teams off, and knuckleball is a technique, less stress on the arm, as long as they can reach the place. (though it don't matter, batters swing anyway)

Those pitchers do age differently. So 38 or 33 for fastball, probably same difference.
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein

Yeah, but look how long Wakefield and Niekro lasted. 38 is not old for a knuckleballer.

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What was Niekro? 48? I know he pitched for the Jays, not well, but he was pitching for the yanks before that and doing a pretty good job.

Here are some of his numbers -- he was ace in his 40's.

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I'm guess because it's on the Jays website the deal is all but done, just the details.

Word is the Jays might sign Nick Swisher (1st base). Might as well as go on in at this point.
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein

According to this....
»www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/b···6459007/

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The New York Post reports that the Mets would also send catcher Josh Thole and a non-elite prospect to the Jays in exchange for catchers Travis D’Arnaud and John Buck, right-hander Noah Syndergaard and another non-elite prospect.

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I agree, Syndergaard isn't one you want to send out. Clearly this team is going for broke.

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Drunk Jays Fan hard the the name Matt Harvey floating around there. Some of the stuff 'were hearing' might be Romero might have to fight for a job this spring. Currently he's #4, if Dickey comes, he's #5 unless Happ beats him to it, and another dude comes, Ricky is #6.

One thing, injuries to the teams hitters aren't going to stop the pitching of this team. Not sure how it will all work out once Kyle and Drew get back. Drew should be a solid #3 guy. Kyle possibly #2 if he can figure out his shit. (his dad did win the Cy Young) Maybe the Jays will see how things go in June, and if they are leading and have a glut of aces fooling around in the BP, they might get some top prospects from a team needing some help.

Still hope they try to snag Swisher though.

Listening to the FAN 590 right now.
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I take a known star commodity over a possible star commodity every day.

Losing D'arnaud and Syndergaard hurts, but really, Syndergaard is 3 years away, minimum, ANYTHING could happen between now and then. D'arnaud is one of the top prospects in the MLB, but prospects are currency. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't. As someone said, look at Snider. Look at Lind.

I'm wary of this trade, but I thought the Jays were an AL east contender before this trade. Now? Their starting rotation is unreal. They have 4 pitchers who could be aces on most teams in the league, and Romero, who was the ace on this team in 2011. Having a knuckler in the rotation can make your other pitchers that much better. This is a scary lineup to face now.

They've been building a farm system for years, and it's finally paying off. This is why you have a system full of top level prospects. When you see a chance, you go all in on it.

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From Twitter:

CP24 ‏@CP24
BREAKING: Cy Young winner R.A. Dickey and Blue Jays agree to two-year, $25-million contract extension, pending a physical, TSN reports.

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LF is Melky Cabrara, he should be fine, he was the all-star MVP. Rasmus in CF should be fine too, he should be an elite player. Plus he's the only one on the team that can hit to level 500.

1st base is questionable if Edwin DH's and Lind can't keep it together.
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein

And has JoeyBats really recovered from that wrist injury.

As good as the lineup is, it's only as good as Bautista makes it.