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STN

join:2004-12-29
Canada
reply to darkrabbit

Re: Bell FTTH question

I would caution against replacing the Sagemcom in an FTTH setup. VLAN tagging is not the only required markings on the packets going into the ONT. For internet you may be ok, but for TV the Sagemcom marks the traffic in very specific ways.


tbb73

join:2008-09-24
Blainville, QC
Reviews:
·Bell Fibe

For internet only it's very easy to get rid of the Sagemcom. Tag with ID 35 and spoof the MAC address of the Sagemcom... that's it, easy.

For the TV this is different. You need another VLAN ID (36), you need some static routes and complicated DNS setup because the sagemcom will redirect some DNS requests to the TV service DNSs at Bell...


LondonDave
Premium
join:2011-09-05
canada

Very easy. I removed my sagemcom from the FTTH ONT and hooked up the f0.35 port from my cisco 1812 and I'm up and running with one less device on the wall.



amrdave

@amazonaws.com

How's the throughput on your 1812? What kind of profile (speed) do you have?


LondonDave
Premium
join:2011-09-05
canada

I'm on the 15/15 profile so I'm not really working the 1812 too hard. I was able to push the rogers 75/2 through it previously without any problems.



Paolo
Mr. Wireless

join:2004-05-29
canada

and if u do have problems, will bell help you? what if something ends up not working? what is your backup plan?
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LondonDave
Premium
join:2011-09-05
canada

My sagemcom is still configured so if I ever have problems I'll hook that back up before even trying bell. I'm afraid of how confused bell would be if I tried to explain things.



Rigor_M

join:2010-09-26
Quebec, QC
reply to tbb73

said by tbb73:

For internet only it's very easy to get rid of the Sagemcom. Tag with ID 35 and spoof the MAC address of the Sagemcom... that's it, easy.

For the TV this is different. You need another VLAN ID (36), you need some static routes and complicated DNS setup because the sagemcom will redirect some DNS requests to the TV service DNSs at Bell...

Did you try to NOW spoof the sagemcom's MAC address ?

What i'm thinking is, leave the sagemcom for my TV feed and use another ethernet port on the ONT to connect my router with vlan 35 on its wan side.

the thing is, Bell stopped accepting multiple PPPoE logins so that makes it impossible to bridge the sagemcom and put a personal firewall behind it.

If its possible to not use the b1xxx code in the sagecom and NOT spoof its mac, it would be possible to use a personal router directly in the ONT

any toughts on this ?

yyzlhr

join:2012-09-03
Scarborough, ON
kudos:4

I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading that only one ethernet port on the ONT is actually active.



Frank_IT
Premium
join:2003-11-01
Montreal
reply to Rigor_M

You cant do that as there is only one port enabled on the ONT.
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morisato

join:2008-03-16
Oshawa, ON

The Tv portion of the Sagecom is not pppoe it is DHCP.



Rigor_M

join:2010-09-26
Quebec, QC

I agree that its DHCP, but is that for the feed AND internet apps (do they both got out on vlan36) or is the vlan35 used for the TV's apps ?