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Poser

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Update on matching Rogers new speeds?

Hi,

I haven't heard anything about matching Rogers new cable speeds. Can someone update me on where we're at right now? I can't wait for 3mbps! Its gonna be sweet! =)

Thanks in advance!

Samgee

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Re: Update on matching Rogers new speeds

Perhaps adding a ? to the end of your post title, or a Change to "anyone have an update on ..."

Post seems to indicate you have the answer.

bt

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reply to Poser
Waiting on the CRTC decision. Could be this week, could be sometime in January.



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reply to Poser
The CRTC still has that case before it and we're not likely to hear back from them until sometime in January so you'll have to be patient a few more weeks bub. As much has been said in other threads regarding this, search around the forum(s).
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Poser

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reply to Samgee
My apologies for the misleading title. I have fixed it!

Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eyes open.


koreyb
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join:2005-01-08
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reply to Poser

Re: Update on matching Rogers new speeds?

The CRTC isn't fast.. nor is any other GOV agency.

I'm dealing with immigration for my US Spouse who I married Feb of this past year, so they can move here.. They move at the pace of a snail!

Poser

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Congratulations. And enjoy the freedom while you can! You think she's going to let you post on dslreports once she moves up North? Ha!


koreyb
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reply to Poser
I don't live on here... I'm sure it will be ok..



c2roth
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reply to Poser
I really hope we don't have to wait until new year for the decision. If the decision came come out in 2012 and IF consumers win then an implementation in 2013 is cool with me.

1Mbps up is getting really old...



TwiztedZero
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Sorry, but yeah likely to see the "Decision", in 2013 the CRTC is quite busy with other issues as well if you've been following the #CRTC thread(s) on Twitter.


redrain85

join:2002-06-27
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reply to Poser
Not sure what this tweet infers, exactly. But it sounds like things are not going in our favor.

»twitter.com/jfmezei/status/28160···08978689



c2roth
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Wow that tweet does not sound like good news.

Are those docs available yet somewhere on the forums? As I haven't seen them.


redrain85

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I'm guessing resa1983 will fill us in. I haven't seen the documents being referred to anywhere, either. They're not currently on the CRTC site, as far as I can tell.

Also not sure if this has to do with a final decision, or Rogers just reiterating their position before the CRTC does make a final decision. But, as you said, it's not sounding good . . .



c2roth
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Yeah I tried to find it on the CRTC site but that page is a black hole and entirely unnavigable. I could even anything with the search. Their search engine must really suck. It couldn't find anything for TN29 or TN30.


bt

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TN28 - »www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2012/r28_28.htm
TN29 - »www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2012/r28_29.htm
TN30 - »www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2012/r28_30.htm

No new documents listed under any of them though.



c2roth
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Thanks BT.

Those URLs must suck for SEO....bunch of gibberish.



Teddy Boom
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reply to c2roth

said by c2roth:

Wow that tweet does not sound like good news.

Are those docs available yet somewhere on the forums? As I haven't seen them.

I can't make any sense out of it at all.
Rogers filed reply cmts for Tn29-30 portions of TPIA speed matching. Confirms no changes to disaggregated POI.
Rogers can't confirm anything, it is up to the CRTC to decide.. Further, I thought the deadline for Rogers replies had passed a week ago or more.

Oh wait.. Is this because price and availability of speeds were split off into two issues? This is just Rogers reply to the part of the proceeding that is still open? In that case this is mostly meaningless, we already know Rogers position on the issue..

edit: Ya, this is just their response to the other half of the issue. It isn't news at all, we already knew that Rogers wants to deny non-aggregated access. Here are a couple of links to help untangle the details:
»Re: CNOC Files w/ CRTC Against Rogers
»Re: CNOC Files w/ CRTC Against Rogers

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OK... So here's the deal..

All 3 Tariff notices were filed at once.

TN28 has to do with *new tiers at higher prices* (aka Roger's bullshit as they're really upgrades to current tiers).
TN29 has to do with withdrawal & subsequent grandfathering of old speeds.
TN30 has to do with increasing the Extreme Plus from 75mbps to 150mbps.

TN28 is technically the Tariff Notice that the Part 1 Application was filed against. CNOC asked for expedited decision, hense the dates for TN28 being set earlier than normal for a normal Tariff Notice.

As the Part 1 really didn't apply to TN29 & TN30, normal response dates were applied - hense the responses this month by CNOC & Rogers.

Full history of TN28 & Part 1 can be read easily here:
»dl.dropbox.com/u/9038867/Rogers/CRTC.html

IF TN28 comes through as it morally should (not necessarily how it will), TN29 will be moot.

Decision should be sometime in January considering it didn't appear on this week's upcoming decisions notice, and I doubt they'll release something like this over xmas holidays.
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Teddy Boom
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Whoa.. from Rogers TN30 cover letter:

Rogers currently has 3 TPIA customers who have 7 end-users in total on 75 Mbps aggregated POI TPIA service.
3 Aggregated customers? Start, presumably CIK, but who is the third?
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Teddy Boom
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reply to resa1983
Another Whoa...

In the TN29 cover letter, Rogers proposes the complete withdrawal of 18 and 28 service on April 16th 2013.

Rogers notes that under the terms of Telecom Decisions CRTC 99-8, 2006-77 and 2010-632, and related rulings, Rogers’ obligation is to make TPIA services available to competitors at speeds that match the speeds we offer to our retail Internet service end-users. Rogers has no obligation to make available through TPIA any access speeds that we do not offer to our own retail end-users. This fact should be sufficient to justify approval of the current tariff notice.
Of course they also propose denying non-aggregated access to the replacement speeds. That means they propose reducing Teksavvy and Distributel (aka Acanac, CIA, 3web) to only offering 6mbit service as of April 16th!
(existing customers grandfathered of course)

I can't be the first to notice this?!!?
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