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cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

Which ISP? cheapest unlimited high speed Montreal

Hi, I'm sorry if this is a common question or if it's common knowledge around here but I thought dslreport was the place to ask...

I am with Bell at the moment and the fees are insane! I do a lot of downloading, watch a lot of streaming TV and my girlfriend does some torrenting.

I've checked out a few other ISPs in Montreal and some of them require that you buy "their" router.. that + the Bell fees for breach of contract ad up...

If anyone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate. Cheers!

P.S.- I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this question, I apologize if it's not.


Dcite

join:2006-05-12
Mississauga, ON

I personally use Electronicbox.net (A company Based on Montreal), I am not sure if they offer a very high speed unlimited option. But I do know that their 6Mbit/800Kbit package comes with unlimited transfer for just $43.95.
On the plan I mentioned you can use a store bought DSL modem, and your own router and it should work just fine.

I cannot comment on their 15Mbps package as I have not tried, Diskace which is on these forums works for electronicbox and should be able to answer deeper questions.

I would also note that ANY company which uses the phone line to provide internet needs an active land line, else the DSL service will cost an additional $10 to $12 to pay for a Dry Loop which is pretty much a powered telephone line without an ability to dial.


julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Acanac

3 edits
reply to cyclo

See if you're close to a phone central first here: »colba.net/map2plus.php?lang=fr

If you're close to one of the red points, colba is the best deal (up to 24mb/sec for 19.95$/month + 9.95$ dry loop). 2nd best is Acanac cable 8mbps (now 10.5mbps) for 39.95$/month if you pay a year upfront. If you're on a budget diet, cheapest is Teksavvy cable 3mbps (now 5mbps) with 300gb bandwith for 24.95$/month.

As for the colba.net modem/router, I'd suggest you buy a TP-Link TD-W8961ND. Cheaper than their modem/router and far more reliable. Acanac will ask you to buy their modem (99.95$ for a DCM 475 docsis 3 cable modem) so add on top of that a TP-Link router like the TL-WR1043ND for 50-60$ and you're in business.

While at it, if you want to lower your fees, switch to VOIP for your phoneline... Transfer your phone number to freephoneline.ca (50$ activation + 25$ transfer + around 50$ for a Cisco SPA112 VOIP adapter) and you can forget about that monthly phone bill forever!


cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

Well I live on the plateau (Mont-Royal/St-Hubert) so I guess I'm close enough to a phone central to go with colba. And I don't mind paying in advance.

Thanks for all the info!

I will go with option number one.

Merci!



rednekcowboy

join:2012-03-21
kudos:1
reply to cyclo

I'm with Electronicbox as well, I would suggest you look at them.

I have 30Mbps down and 3 up with a 500GB/month cap for $60/month. There is also Distributel, which offers the same speed tier with unlimited for only $5/month more.


MFido

join:2012-10-19
kudos:2
reply to cyclo

I am with Teksavvy via their reseller Montreal-DSL.


julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Acanac
reply to cyclo

Mont-Royal/St-Hubert is pretty far from the phone central. I'd suggest you call them and ask what average speed your neighborhood get with adsl2+. I'd say looking at the map you won't get more than 7-8mbps. Might be a better idea if you only get speed in that range to look at option #2, Acanac. Give them a call, who knows.. 514-856-3500.


cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

1 edit

yes, but with Acanac I would be paying double for the same speed...

Judging from the distance:



it can't be all that bad... (the red spot is where I live) I'm certainly within the range.. I would be content with 10mps...but who knows. I will call them tomorrow.

I like the fact that don't depend on Bell. I guess 7-8mps is better than a throttled 10mps ...

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions! Like I said, I will call colba tomorrow and take it from there...


Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23

said by cyclo:

I like the fact that don't depend on Bell. I guess 7-8mps is better than a throttled 10mps ...

Bell doesn't throttle anymore (to the extent of declaring this in front of the CRTC), and I'll take unlimited 25 meg DSL with 10 megs upstream over your super slow Colba connection, thank you very much.
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cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

1 edit

I beg to differ... they can declare whatever they want. They do throttle. Bell throttles torrents, youtube.. and all packets they deem "suspicious". Plus, they have ripped me off enough already, thank you very much.

I have Fibe 10 atm which is supposed to be 10mps(it's actually 7-8mps). My d/l speed has NEVER reached more than 1mps.

And I don't need 25mps D/L speeds anyway.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to cyclo

No, they can't declare whatever they want and do otherwise. The CRTC's net neutrality regulations only gives Bell permission to throttle if they explain to their customers exactly what they throttle and when. If they declare that they don't throttle, they're not allowed to, and every indication is that they don't. It was phased out over a rather extended period of time, but by this point has been completely phased out.

Changes in CRTC regulations made it counter-productive for Bell to throttle. They finally got the UBB they wanted so much, and even managed to get paid based on peak usage rather than average, and the CRTC insanely overpriced it, so throttling was actually reducing their profit. They can't gouge their wholesalers if they're cutting off the peaks with throttling. On top of all this, they and other ISPs were getting a lot of bad press for the practice, particularly for the mistakes they were making. On top of all this, the equipment they were using wasn't cheap.

Fibe services, if synced at their full speed, deliver real-world speeds at the advertised rate, at least at higher speeds. They sync the line faster than the advertised speed; the sync speed on a 25/10 line is more like 27/11, meaning you actually get slightly higher than 25/10 in speed tests, after all overhead.

If you were getting 1 megabit download results on a 10 meg line, that's an individual line issue, not a general Bell network issue.
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hm

@videotron.ca

I think I recall reading Bell may have an area or so (or a whole city) in Ontario throttled due to a lack of upgrades, or some deterioration in their network.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to cyclo

It was a phased shutdown, so they may not have gotten to that city yet; I imagine they'd shut it down in that city, if it's still throttled, once they fixed the network.

One of the big reasons why Bell stopped throttling, in my opinion, is because the traffic share of the things they were allowed to throttle shrank. Netflix uses a rather lot more bandwidth now than it did when they started throttling BitTorrent. They couldn't throttle Netfilx (they're a direct competitor, there'd have been hell and lawsuits to pay), so throttling BitTorrent got less and less relatively effective.
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cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC
reply to cyclo

said by Guspaz:

If you were getting 1 megabit download results on a 10 meg line, that's an individual line issue, not a general Bell network issue.

Well moving twice didn't change a thing...

5 years ago, I was getting real 5mps. Then they introduce Fibe and monthly caps. Cost has gone up and service has gone down... No more Bell for me!

My bill right now for a land line (no long distance calls) and Fibe 10 + extra bandwith is $120/month! and that's without busting the limit...


NoColba

@nexicom.net
reply to Guspaz

If you want unlimited then forget Colba.net because if you download too much they send you an email saying you download too much and will terminate your internet if you continue to abuse...


Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:3
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Bell Fibe
reply to cyclo

See if you can switch to the promotional offer bell has right now "for students, but also for everybody"

its on redflagdeals
$49.95 - 375gb - 25/10
8 month offer

Much better than anything else you can get at the moment

that should keep you settled for now and hopefully in 8 moths the wholesale companies will have better rates / no forced rentals etc.


cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

said by Cloneman:

See if you can switch to the promotional offer bell has right now "for students, but also for everybody"

its on redflagdeals
$49.95 - 375gb - 25/10
8 month offer

Much better than anything else you can get at the moment

that should keep you settled for now and hopefully in 8 moths the wholesale companies will have better rates / no forced rentals etc.

I see nothing of the sort on their website.

there's the 25/10 plan for $49.99 (6 months only) w/ only 125GB usage and the 50/50 plan for the same price (6 months as well) w/ 250GB usage. After the initial 6 months period prices go up to $67.95 /mo and $82.95 /mo respectively.

Not that great of a deal.

Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:3
reply to cyclo

looks like that deal is done, sorry.


julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1
reply to cyclo

I prefer to pay 19.95 + 10$ dry loop for unlimited colba if I get a good speed at my location than anything capped with Bell!



um no

@videotron.ca
reply to NoColba

said by NoColba :

If you want unlimited then forget Colba.net because if you download too much they send you an email saying you download too much and will terminate your internet if you continue to abuse...

Um, no. They tried to get someone to calm down on the downloading, as was posted here. But the CCTS would would come down on them.

And they haven't terminated anyone.

cyclo

join:2009-11-12
Montreal, QC

1 edit
reply to cyclo

I called colba and I'm over 3km from the tour so speed is 4-5mps or worse if in a old building with bad quality cables which I suspect is the case.

So I'm still looking... I ruled out Acanac, cooptel and montreal-dsl.

I'll either go with Distributel (Unlimited DSL Internet 15)
which has low activation fees : $29 + I can use my D-Link router. + phone line : 15,45 $.

or a plan from electronicbox.net (I haven't check all the fees yet..)

any other suggestions?


julienvf

join:2008-12-30
Verdun, QC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Acanac
reply to cyclo

I'm a happy Acanac cable customer. This has always been my backup plan for customers who want to save. Distributel and Acanac share the same cable core so if you register to Acanac cable, you'll have Distributel's network.. IP, backbone, etc. Just the billing is done by Acanac.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to cyclo

Distributel owns Acanac.
montreal-dsl is a reseller of TekSavvy.
electronicbox doesn't offer unlimited ADSL2+ or VDSL2 service.

The only ISPs offering ADSL2+ or VDSL2 service left off this list that I can think of are Velcom (avoid, they seem to have gone down the tubes) and TekSavvy.

Another option to consider is unlimited cable internet. You can get that from Acanac, Distributel, electronicbox, or TekSavvy, although some of those ISPs only have unlimited up to a certain speed.
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