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ekster
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Re: Spouse wants a Techhy Item.....

For the most part, which tablet to use for reading doesn't matter. Android/Blackberry/(And probably Apple's OS... can't confirm as I never used it) all have kobo app, kindle app, as well as a bunch of other 3rd party apps.

The experience of reading on a tablet is the same as reading on a laptop or computer. Feel free to download the kindle or Kobo app for PC to find out what that's like.

Then stop by chapters or any electronics store to see what a eReader with e-ink is like afterwards. The screen is a completely different technology that cannot be compared or ever be even slightly similar. Same goes for battery life.

If she only wants to read, I'd strongly suggest to look at the eReaders... if she has her phone for little games, then a tablet isn't needed. But if she really wants a tablet, then it'll depend more on what it's for. The kindle/kobo tablets are not that expensive and would be fine if it's mainly for reading... otherwise Playbook, any Android tablet or the iPad will all do, and be more or less similar for reading, so that choice will just depend on the price. hardware, preferences, etc.


A Lurker
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said by Anav:

Okay you KOBO luvers, now you got me looking at the kobo ARC, and Kobo Vox, How come not mentioned???

I have an old KOBO WiFi, and honestly the lighting is the only thing I would add. I don't care about colour, don't really need a touchscreen, and I don't need it to recommend books for me. I'd be happy if they kept the old manual click page turning / buttons and just added a light.


donoreo
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said by Anav:

Okay you KOBO luvers, now you got me looking at the kobo ARC, and Kobo Vox, How come not mentioned???

Arc was not reviewed well is and is discontinued, the VOX just came out (this week I think) so we do not know yet! However, they are tablets, not e-readers.


Hydraglass
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Another thing to consider is the amount of time she spends reading - while e-ink may be easier on your eyes if you read 3 hours a day, a backlit tablet is fine for 30 minute to an hour of reading. I love my Kindle Fire and can't stand my wife's Kindle with e-ink... We read in bed and I'd need a spotlight to see her screen with almost the biggest font... I can read on my Fire with relatively small font because of the fact that it's a backlit colour screen (I just set the background to a "parchment" type paper).


ekster
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That's addressed with the new eReaders. Kindle something and Kobo Glo have light built into the device.


dirtyjeffer
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if she is interested in a tablet and currently has an iPhone, i'm surprised you haven't included either the iPad mini or one of the regular sized ones (if you wanted something bigger)...one nice feature with the apple stuff is you can share the apps on all the devices, so if she has some nice apps on her iPhone (or purchases more) she will have full access to them on the iPad device as well for no additional cost...it will also be a familiar interface for her, so she will likely be able to just pick it up and use it...while some may chime in here about "The iPad mini is crap, blah, blah, blah", there is value in familiarity, usability and compatibility...the iPad mini isn't a spec sheet warrior, but i have read and heard very positive things from people who actually use them.
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Anav
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Hi DJ,
Yes I have thought of that and it comes down to budget. Dont have the additional 200-500 to spend on it otherwise the ipad mini might have been a decent choice. Its hamstrung by two things though, doesnt have teh retina display and no external sdhc slot and slow processor and......... yup I would buy a new gen ipad instead of ipad mini anyday of the week right now.


dirtyjeffer
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seriously anav, forget the tech specs...i would bet that if she was to use an iPad mini, and if the other aspects of it were of benefit, the difference between the displays would be marginal...i have talked and read comments from people who have used them...the new google tablets are a good deal, but the iPad mini at about $330 isn't too much more than it (most tablets are going to be at least $250ish)...personally, i think the familiarity and compatibility with existing apps would be quite valuable and likely assist in a happy customer experience...just my 2 cents.
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donoreo
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said by Hydraglass See ProfileI love my Kindle Fire and can't stand my wife's Kindle with e-ink... We read in bed and I'd need a spotlight to see her screen with almost the biggest font... I can read on my Fire with relatively small font because of the fact that it's a backlit colour screen (I just set the background to a "parchment" type paper).

I do not understand this. Do you have a problem reading a book? I can read anything in almost no light, so I am a bit of an exception.
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Hydraglass
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said by donoreo:

I do not understand this. Do you have a problem reading a book? I can read anything in almost no light, so I am a bit of an exception.

I can't read a book in my bedroom - even with a book light. I can read a book sitting next to an open window in daylight, or under a 150W incandescent (or 35W cfl, pure white) bulb. I have a very hard time with contrast between the letters and the paper, even when wearing reading glasses it's just not comfortable. (And no, the built in lights on the new e-ink readers still don't cut it for me) - I need a high contrast backlit LCD to comfortably read when laying in bed or even on the couch in my living room after dark. No, it wouldn't be great for me to read outdoors - but I don't read outdoors - I even find a normal book has glare issues for me when outdoors.

As for eye strain - I read and look at content on a backlit LCD screen 10 hours a day at work - laptop or desktop monitor. An extra hour or two of reading a book the same way - works fine for me - I have even done long reads on the Fire - read King's "Under the Dome" in 2 days of 10 hours each day a few weekends ago - didn't find it really bothered me at all, but to each their own


donoreo
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Wow.


Thane_Bitter
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Other way around, the Vox came first, the Arc was released only a few weeks after the Glo and Mini came out so its very much new. It is an android device with their own reading app attached, by that it should be similar to other tablets. It runs OS 4.0 however they will be releasing an update to 4.1 at some point.

Given the price I think you get more bang for the buck from a Nexus 7 tablet, however I don't think Kobo will be releasing their Arc reading app as that would kill off their own hardware sales. I haven't touched one, however I think the Arc is more tuned towards people that want to read books (interactive and regular) and also want to check email, watch movies and such (in this order).


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All this talk about e-books got me playing around with some stuff and suddenly found that my PC version of Kindle no longer runs. No error message, just nothing.

Bit of Googling revealed that PC Kindle was designed to stop working sometime back in July, and it was necessary to upgrade to a new one to get your library accessible again (I don't read books on PC Kindle, but that's often how I buy them).

The analysis was correct -- an upgrade fixed the "intended stop-working date". Proof that this was the problem was provided by my outgoing firewall, wherein Kindle started up and firewall asked permission to contact Amazon, and after that, Kindle failed to run at all, with no message, until it was upgraded. Amazon had totally nuked it.

Reminds me of complaints I've heard about Amazon deleting books from users' physical Kindles for no valid reason.

I still buy books from Amazon if the price is right and they're not readily available anywhere else, but as far as I'm concerned Amazon treats their customers like shit. I just wasted time going through a bunch of troubleshooting, looking at event logs etc. for no good reason whatsoever. Jeff Bezos can go to hell.

EDIT: Also installed Kindle on one of my Playbooks (via sideloading) just as an experiment. Gotta love the Android compatibility LOL! Amazon had promised a native version of Kindle for Playbook long ago and even got it mostly developed, then refused to bring it to market so they could promote their piece-of-shit Kindle Fire! Take that, Bezos!




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A Lurker
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I used to find that with my AppleTV. If you didn't update iTunes, after so many times, suddenly I couldn't download stuff to it. I hit a point where my new version iTunes suddenly couldn't connect to the internet (everything else on my computer could) and again, I couldn't connect to the AppleTV.

My solution - purchased a WDTV live hub and never looked back.


Guspaz
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The Kindle Paperwhite reviewed as being a bit better than the Glo (they're very similar in size/weight/shape/technology except the paperwhite has better contrast when using the frontlight), but the Paperwhite isn't available in Canada (at all), so it's a moot comparison.

I'd be interest in seeing a proper battery life comparison between the two. The two vendors claim a bunch of different numbers that are impossible to directly compare:

Amazon:
1) 2 months of casual use at 30 minutes per day with light at 10 of 24

Kobo:
1) 1 month of casual use
2) 55 hours continuous use with light on
3) 70 hours continuous use with light at 15-20%

So, basically, without knowing relative brightness, or seeing continuous use with light off, it's frustrating to compare how long the batteries last. There should be a standardized way of reporting battery life. I should be able to see for a device:

1) X hours of standby
2) Y hours of continuous use with light off
3) Z hours of continuous use with light at 100 nits

We solved this problem long ago with cellphones and laptops... You can directly compare the battery life of an iPhone and a Nexus because they both report fairly accurate estimates using similar scenarios...
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I'm angry with this thread because it made me do something not so smart.

I just bought a Nexus 7... when I had a Samsung Tab 2 7.

The Nexus 7 is... just so much better... it makes me cry... but why did you have to be so much better that I was willing to skip lunch for a month to get it!
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Anav
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Let me get it straight, you like the nexus 7 over the samsung Tab 2.
Interesting because I was also looking at the samsung as a possibility until my friend brought up the nexus option.

GBerry

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Not sure why battery life is a huge selling point in e-reader v. tablet. Most tablets will last 10+ hours of reading time if you are using them at the lowest brightness and have a black background. I've easily finished novels in that amount of time. Even were you to sit down and read for an entire day, you'd take breaks. Charge it for an hour while you are eating and you'll be back close to full. It isn't that big of an inconvenience.

The only thing to compare is the screen technology for reading vs. the versatility. Tablets do games, music, video, email, web, facebook, photos etc. You can even browse and download additional books. E-readers have e-ink. If you like reading on that technology, then they will be better for pure reading.

Considering the price difference is ~$70 I'd take the nexus 7 every time.


donoreo
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said by Thane_Bitter:

Other way around, the Vox came first, the Arc

I know, not sure why I typed it wrong. Odd.


Thane_Bitter
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J E F F
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Kobo Glo for e-ink reader.
iPad mini for tablet. iPad can install overdrive, kobo, kindle, if you want it.
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IamGimli

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I think a refurbished Kobo Wi-Fi for $70 at Best Buy is still the best value for eReaders.

I still have no regrets buying a refurbished first-gen Kobo for $60 18 months ago.


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Anav, the Samsung is cheaper, but the Nexus is a lot better. The major thing it lacks is dual speakers (it only has 1 set) and an Expandable Memory slot. However the process and screen make up for that.

Not to mention the Samsung has the 10 pin "Ipad like" connector while the Nexus is a plain USB Mini. So easier to charge if you are not with the original cord (which has half fallen off the connector on my Tab!)

Since there is no expandable memory, think long and hard before you go "cheap" and get the 16gb one...
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Anav
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Well, I find out tonight if the unit is available apparently a relative has first dibs, which is fair enough, if not available going to pick up the kobo glo, no sales though same price everywhere - 129.