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Re: U-verse speeds vs DSL; ATT digital modem choices Thanks Norman,
I've never heard of Pace that bought 2Wire. This is all I've found on residential gateway - not much: »www.att.com/media/en_US/swf/uver···eway.pdf
Can you explain exactly the implications in your comment:
"but it has ISP access from the Internet side, so the ISP (and whomever hacks the modem client) is in control of the LAN." Even U-verse 6.0 (Elite) - inet only - "reg." $ is now only $3 more than Uverse 3.0. And Uverse 3.0 "reg." $ is (now) $5 LESS than DSL 3.0. - $38 vs $43. That's w/o promos or "negotiating."
You fired ATT - & went w/ what? Did you get better price, or going more for higher speeds & data cap, at not too much more than ATT's price?
AT&T prices for all internet has gone up tremendously in last few yrs. DSL almost tripled in ? 5 yrs? I don't know what U-verse "internet only" $$ will do, once DSL is mostly gone. But, I've been successful for several yrs renegotiating DSL price down sharply. Last yr, 3.0 DSL was $35 "reg." (for "grandfathered" cust) & I got 1yr @ $14.95. You can't just say, "I want cheaper $," & they say OK. It's a process, for sure. Similar success in past, except their $ wasn't nearly as high.
Now DSL 3.0 is 43.00 & I pay under 19 - which is all it's worth.
No guarantee they'll renegotiate $ on U-verse. Not sure, but may be many more getting U-verse - internet or bundles - than dry loop DSL / DSL + phone. If users are signing up like crazy, they may not be as open to negotiating $. | |
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| said by whyamihere:Can you explain exactly the implications in your comment:
"but it has ISP access from the Internet side, so the ISP (and whomever hacks the modem client) is in control of the LAN." Pace/2Wire have registered port 3479 for their 'TWRPC' (TwoWire Remote Programming(?) Client) service on the modem. Port scanning a public IP address on a Pace/2Wire RG shows that port 3479 is open, so some application on the RG is listening on port 3479 fo incoming connections. This puts the user at the mercy of the security of the firmware on the RG. Since it also is a router, whomever can access the RG can also access the LAN configuration of the router.
You fired ATT - & went w/ what? Did you get better price, or going more for higher speeds & data cap, at not too much more than ATT's price?
• DSL Extreme
• Sonic.net, LLC
DSLX offers the same service tiers as AT&T; basically reselling them. But from the aggregation router to the peering connections, subscribers ride DSLX transit. Plus, no caps. They offer service in several states, in conjunction with local ILECs.
Sonic.net has a similar service to DSLX in many areas; but in my case, with a CO connection, I qualified for their "Fusion" service. Faster at the same wire distance, cheaper, more useful options. However, there is a downside for many: Sonic.net operates only in California, and only in areas where AT&T is the ILEC.
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Norman
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