said by resa1983:said by funny0:said by eots:I think Teksavvy stands to lose a lot of customers over this if they hand over customer info. Anyone can collect IP addresses and file a request for a court order to access private customer info without requiring any proof that they have a valid claim. The burden of proof needs to be on the plaintiff. Teksavvy should only be required to provide customer info to law enforcement under a court order, not to any joe blow in a civil matter.
tell me how seeing someones ip address in batch of others equates to commerical gain for that ip address?
haha ....
They've done that so they can attempt to sue for statutory damages..
If THEY sue for non-commercial, they give up statutory damages, and then any infringement of OTHERS' copyrighted works done before Voltage's filing automatically waives statutory damages as well.
They're leaving the door open for other suits by others against Teksavvy customers.
NO they haven't Show me where they PROVED BEYOND A RESONABLE DOUBT that they showed that commercial gain was had by any of the ip addresses YOU CANT
and thats part im talking about....voltage screwed up they are trying to use the new law in the wrong way...and it don't take a lawyer to know this...geist himself even mentioned it...
this isn't the trial NOR a hearing on evidence YET before any evidence is pruned OR discovered properly other then some list of ips your saying it equates to commercial infringement?
HOW does an Apache Web Server log at a church full of ip addresses then differ from a bit torrent swarm list....in your opinion it doesn't and both equate to some weird notion of commercial use?
NO your utterly wrong and if you want to press the issue put up some intellectual property pm me ill dl it without permission and you can try and sue me for commercial copyright infringement ....i wish i was part of this case and perhaps ill file like cippic to make sure this issue is brought up.
Ya see dear sir the new law makes it quite clear there are two variations of infringement commercial and NON commercial.
a kid downloading a music tune is not the same as one selling the tune on a dvdr at a street corner....
ONE does real harm the other does far far less.
feel free to look up what commercial means ...one you read it your gonna go back to your voltage company and realize you filed wrong....and that it wont be worth the time and money to file this type a suit as NON commercial.THAT also allows every poor person legal aid...
and waiving those what rights? they don't have the right to waive statutory damages in the way you think...this isn't the broke states of america buddy. THE law is clear the max i can get for all infringements for non commercial infringement is 5000 dollars...
Believe you me you never will get 5000 for a single or a few movies either..so go on keep paying those troll lawyers lets see whom the scum bag lawyers are in Canada so we can look at deporting economic terrorists.