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sekim
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join:1999-08-17
Saint Petersburg, FL
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reply to Gem

Re: [WIN8] Questions about the Win8 digital upgrade...

Same key works 32 or 64 bitz


tcg
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join:2003-09-12
Lubbock, TX
reply to sekim
It should. You may have to fool Windows into thinking you used the right method to install...

Edit: In fact, I know it will. For every college student that has brought their machine in for me to install the (nearly) free Windows upgrade on, I've used the Technet media and their key. Didn't need to do anything special at all.

Gem
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reply to sekim
Nice!


tcg
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reply to Gem
I thought that's what I said!

Gem
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said by tcg:

I thought that's what I said!

Almost.

You said "keys" which led me to wonder if there were two different keys for 32 and 64 bit installs. Gather now that you get a single key that will work with either version.


tcg
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said by Gem:

said by tcg:

I thought that's what I said!

Almost.

You said "keys" which led me to wonder if there were two different keys for 32 and 64 bit installs. Gather now that you get a single key that will work with either version.

Hmmm. I was responding to a post that used the word "keys" so somehow it seemed appropriate. I still fail to see the difference. But that's okay. Glad the confusion is cleared up for you!

The same thing is true for Office, btw.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
reply to Gem
Here is how I got my Win8 working.
Did a fresh install of Win7 + drivers + activated,
From with in Win7 I popped in the Win8 Upgrade DVD that I got for $39.99 and ran Setup. I entered the product key that I got and than it installed Win8 and backed up my entire Win7 installation and moved it all to the 'Windows.old' folder.
I installed the Win8 drivers and I had to activate to get Windows to update.
HAD to run 'Optimize' to defrag the hard drive because the upgrade made it slow as hell but once that finished it is very fast.

So a few notes are, you can install the $39.99 digital download on a blank HDD but the product key that they send you will NOT work.

Also I need to know, is it safe to remove the 'Windows.old' folder once it has been activated?


VegasMan
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Schaumburg, IL
reply to Gem
I think the real question is, where can one find the analog upgrade?
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In need of a Vegas vacation.

Gem
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Buy it from Newegg or elsewhere for roughly $70.

Or better yet, buy the full W8 version for $100.


VegasMan
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said by Gem:

Buy it from Newegg or elsewhere for roughly $70.

Or better yet, buy the full W8 version for $100.

I think you missed the joke. It's all digital.
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robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
So is the Windows.old folder safe to delete?

Gem
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reply to VegasMan
said by VegasMan:

said by Gem:

Buy it from Newegg or elsewhere for roughly $70.

Or better yet, buy the full W8 version for $100.

I think you missed the joke. It's all digital.

I got that, VM. The point is that if you have the funds, getting the full Upgrade on disc or even better, the full OS install program on disc is far better and less of a hassle than accepting whatever MSFT chooses to send us via the digital download upgrade.

The key being having the funds to get the better versions.

Gem
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reply to robman50
said by robman50:

So is the Windows.old folder safe to delete?

I did. No adverse effects noticed so far.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
I guess its only needed for the initial activation?

Gem
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I don't know why it is created or why it is needed.

It's no longer on my W8 hard drive. Space is limited on the SSD on to which W8 is installed. I used various programs to clean up and delete everything that wasn't required. Guess it disappeared then.

Whatever happened to it, W8 has run great here since day one and is still running great even without a window.old file or folder.

Gem
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reply to MrFixit1
said by MrFixit1:

Should have said Media Center not media extender

If you were not aware of it , Microsoft removed Media center capabilities from Win8 , unless you paid extra .
There is a window of opportunity to restore it for free .

»www.techrepublic.com/blog/window···ait/6928 explains things .

This is the page to get the Media Center key
»windows.microsoft.com/en-US/wind···re-packs

If you think things are interesting now , wait till all the people buying computers with Win8 installed find out that they got Win8 core , and to do what they were able to on their old computers will have to pay for an upgrade !

A quick heads up to anyone trying to add windows media player to W8.

You'll need to get a key to do so from Microsoft. When I tried to get the key using the Firefox web browser, MSFT in its all knowing wisdom, refused to send the key.

To work around that problem, contact MSFT using Internet Explorer. They will then send you the key with no problems.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
How much is it? Is media player free if I have W8 Pro?

MrFixit1

join:1999-11-26
Madison, WI
Free until the end of the month ( must be installed by end of month )

Gem
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reply to robman50
said by robman50:

How much is it? Is media player free if I have W8 Pro?

As MrFixit1 said, Media Center Player is Free until the end of this month.

Getting the key and adding Media Player by following the instructions in the links posted above was very easy.

My key arrived in only a minute or two. The Upgrade took place in the space of ten to twenty minutes.

Thumbs up to MrFixit1 for the good tip and for posting the links showing us exactly how to get the key and how to do the upgrade.

Just to it in IE rather than a highly secured Firefox browser. ;>)

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
I got the key in about 5 minutes. It installed its self no trouble at all.

Gem
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Good deal. Glad it worked for you.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
reply to robman50
How many times can I reuse those product keys?

Gem
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I believe the rule is we are allowed to use only one key per upgrade and only on one computer. Even changing the components of that one computer may cause windows to refuse to boot, requiring a call to MSFT, where we ask "mother, may I". If the mood strikes, MSFT may deign to allow us to change the components of our computer or perhaps even to move the OS to an entirely different computer, but that's up to them.

To summarize: One key on one computer and only that computer forever more unless MSFT says otherwise.

If that wasn't your question, and if you were asking how many times can we reinstall the upgrade on the same computer - I don't know.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
I swapped the HDD with an SSD and now I want to do a fresh install so the partition size matches the SSD. Not like 500GB -> 120GB and everything goes crazy.

Gem
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Well...

Try it and see what happens. If W8 balks on you, call Microsoft and ask their permission, which they will very likely grant if their present policy is similar to what it was back in the XP days.

If MSFT's rep says "NO", simply ask to speak to a supervisor and keep escalating until you get someone who says "YES".

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Don't know what software you are imaging and restoring with. I use the Seagate Acronis free version of what appears to be True Image. It has done a lot of successful imaging here from larger drives down to much smaller drives with no problem.

What seems to matter is the size of the used space on the drive more that the total drive size.

I also use at least two partitions on almost all drives. One (or now two) for the Operating System and a second much larger partition for data files.

Most of the time it is the OS partition(s) that are restored or moved from drive to drive by imaging. True Image has handled that very well, IMO.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
So an +1 for Seagate Disc Wizzard. I use that all the time when I need to restore the O/S.

Gem
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That's it. I've used it for several years but had forgotten it's exact name. My version works with Seagate drives and with most other brands as well so long as at least one Seagate drive is present on the system.

robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
reply to Gem
I do not remember if I asked this before but on how many systems can I use the key that came with the Win8 Pro upgrade? Could I use it for 2 systems?


csiemers

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said by robman50:

I do not remember if I asked this before but on how many systems can I use the key that came with the Win8 Pro upgrade? Could I use it for 2 systems?

No, only one system.
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robman50

join:2010-12-14
Beamsville, ON
Still glad I asked though.