 BlitzenZeusBurnt Out CynicPremium
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Re: Looking for item stat info. While leveling it might be easier to be demo, but it's a strange playstyle now. Affliction is more forgiving than destro for lack of stats, and has a little better survivability when soloing. Each spec really has their own priorities now so when you're near 90 it's time to try to get gear better suited for your spec. As affliction I reforge all crit to anything else I can on that piece, and try to avoid pieces with crit if at all possible, including not buying some valor legs with crit while still wearing heroic blues until I could replace them. It also limits having a valid second spec unless you have the second set of gear, like pvp gear. Before you just used to stack haste, and crit, if you didn't have enough stats to support destro usually were affliction in raids, especially as pets usually didn't last long in raids.
In raids I only really see destro, and affliction locks now.
When you're a new 90 those sites will have you reforging some stats to the moon, and ignoring others which are still important, one even suggests you don't need to be anywhere near hit cap, however if the affliction soulburn plus soul swap misses with your limited shard capacity then you're stuck spending extra time manually reapplying the dots along with lost a shard.
Affliction is the only spec with soulburn now, and before 5.1 the aoe on destro was pretty bad while generally doing less dps than as affliction, however I believe they got a new aoe spell now.
These sites keep changes too, like noxxic used to say all out mastery, but now they say a haste soft cap, I always maintained a certain level of haste, and didn't follow them blindly, however did a few dps tests with changes.
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| I only have demon on my lock, so setting up my second talent won't be an issue.
So I could go affliction with no problem.
A non-demon lock has stronger spells, weaker demons?
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said by BlitzenZeus:Affliction is the only spec with soulburn now, and before 5.1 the aoe on destro was pretty bad while generally doing less dps than as affliction, however I believe they got a new aoe spell now.
I believe you may be thinking of the Cataclysm spell that was on the table for 5.1. Unfortunately it was shelved right before the 5.1 release and never made it to the game.
Having said that, one of the most FUN AOE spells comes from the tier 1 talents - Harvest Life. When I do old raid content, I pull as many mobs as I can, throw down rain of fire and then channel harvest life while the meteors continue to shower. Harvest life sucks the life from all nearby mobs and converts it to HP for you. It's the ultimate in suvivability when you've pulled more than you (thought) you could handle. |
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said by Snakeoil:A non-demon lock has stronger spells, weaker demons?
Yes.
Aff/Destro don't rely much on the demons at all. In fact whe you hit level 90, the Grimoire of Sacrifice is the talent of choice which sacs your demon and boosts your spell output.
For questing, the only demon you'll ever need to use is the Void Walker so that he'll tank (draw aggro) while you melt them down. |
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NEVER listen to noxxic... |
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I can't do that to my buddies. I remember the day I fought and bound my succubus to me, and my felguard, and my imp, and my voidwalker. My toon is old enough, I remember how Warlocks used to have to battle the demons who would be their slaves.
 [the above is said with a wink, meaning in partially in jest].
So I'd be back to big blue. I guess I should attempt this now, so I can get used to the play style at lower levels.
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Not significantly, but the felguard is an exception for more damage, however isn't the best tank. I use the voidwalker all the time for soloing, and using soulburn plus life funnel is something only affliction can do. I even used the voidwalker in the brawlers guild, some of them never got even close to killing blue with the passive healing from the first talent in the tree, while other times he valiantly sacrificed himself by eating a big attack I couldn't interrupt, which I didn't want to eat. You can only fear a mob a few times, and you have to pick between death coil and shadowfury. When using, or sacrificing your fel hunter it gives you your only interrupt, however the fel hunter dies very quickly.
One thing I didn't care for about demon was if you lost your pet you dropped a significant amount of damage, which is why I hated demon for raiding, but if you sacrifice it you gain more damage, etc..
They're gonna throw so much mastery gear at you at first when you're in panda land aff, or destro will be the way to go.
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| Why on earth would you use the blueberry as demo? you're doing it wrong. glyph Dark Apotheosis and take the "Threatening presence" off your felguard. He won't die, you'll be taking hits but the glyph increases your threat by 500% and increases your armor and stuff. Once your felguard learns Felstorm, you will easily take out 7-10 mobs using only Hand of Gul'dan and Felstorm while maybe throwing in some Chaos slices. Demo spec is easy mode for leveling.
Also, at lower levels that glyph will allow you to hop in dungeons and when you have a bad tank, you as the warlock can tank better than the tank and take less damage. you get many Def CDs and Drain Life.
don't use the blueberry as demo....ever.
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| I wasn't talking about trash I'm talking about elites, rares, and bosses. I've tanked a heroic boss with my voidwalker as aff. I did a dps, and survivability test as demon with a melee heavy rare, it was eating the felguard alive, and without the quick soulburn plus health funnel I ended up having to channel health instead of doing dps. The felguard is still not the super pet it needs to be, it dies all the time in the brawlers guild too.
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| Grimoire of Supremacy. make sure threatening presence is OFF. WIN
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