 donoreoPremium
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North York, ON | Oshawa loses Camaro production It is going to Michigan. Right to Work laws hurting us already?
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 corsterPremium
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Gatineau, QC | Not just Right to Work, but it certainly doesn't help us.
If I recall correctly, UAW was also willing to take greater concessions than CAW was during the last round of talks. |
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donoreoPremium
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North York, ON | reply to donoreo
I recall that as well. They are going to go where it is cheaper. |
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GM should have died a few years back, and the CAW sat on its collective bargaining union asses during the 80's and 90's when the big three quietly sold off various parts plants to other companies which intern systematically closed them and reopened in Mexico the USA or elsewhere. Workers at GM, Ford and that other one literally have been living in a pleasant little economic bubble for decades.
Live sucks but they managed to live a good deal higher and do so for years longer at the expense of other less important union brothers. |
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 dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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already??
this has been going on the past decade.
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said by corster:Not just Right to Work, but it certainly doesn't help us.
If I recall correctly, UAW was also willing to take greater concessions than CAW was during the last round of talks.
1 word, Petrodollar....CAW can't claim its "cheaper" to manufacture in Canada anymore...why?....Because $1 US = $0.98 CDN...not $0.60...or even .70....but basically our dollar is worth the same as the US...and since the UAW has taken concession on things like the employee benefit/pension plan in the US, it is now cheaper to manufacture there, vs here....
Stupid CAW.... |
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One can't help but think of how Windsor and Oshawa have continuously lost GM lines all the while St. Catharines has gained them to the point of now being GM's largest Canadian centre.
Funny how that goes, and makes me laugh ever so slightly seeing as how the CAW would screw over St. Cats to make Windsor and/or Oshawa happy. Full circle indeed. |
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I read that story this morning, and was wondering how long it was going to take the Union bashers to come out.
Not long I see. Beat up the front line worker while the execs continue to reap the huge paycheques and benefits.
"Free Enterprise" 101.
And don't worry about "Right to work" a certain blue striped provincial leader will fix that, we'll all be working for less then minimum wage soon. |
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North York, ON | said by elwoodblues:I read that story this morning, and was wondering how long it was going to take the Union bashers to come out.
Not long I see. Beat up the front line worker while the execs continue to reap the huge paycheques and benefits.
"Free Enterprise" 101.
This is more of a case on one union beating another.
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The Camaro is the only rear-wheel drive vehicle built at Oshawa.
Although the flexible line in Oshawa can accommodate both front and rear wheel drive assembly, the move will consolidate rear wheel production in Lansing, where the Cadillac CTS and ATS are also made, the company said.
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said by donoreo:said by elwoodblues:I read that story this morning, and was wondering how long it was going to take the Union bashers to come out.
Not long I see. Beat up the front line worker while the execs continue to reap the huge paycheques and benefits.
"Free Enterprise" 101.
This is more of a case on one union beating another. NO that is not what he said.
Sorry i cant talk more but I am busy organizing the poor third world workers. |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | reply to elwoodblues
said by elwoodblues:
I read that story this morning, and was wondering how long it was going to take the Union bashers to come out.
Not long I see. Beat up the front line worker while the execs continue to reap the huge paycheques and benefits.
"Free Enterprise" 101.
that's weird, because there isn't any union bashing in here.
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And don't worry about "Right to work" a certain blue striped provincial leader will fix that, we'll all be working for less then minimum wage soon.
a couple things...for one, are the workers at the Michigan plant making minimum wage??...no??...of course not...secondly, the very thing you complain about, is partly why these plants are here to begin with...when these plants were opened, do you think the US workers were screaming about "Canadians working minimum wage jobs assembling cars"?...of course not...that is how ridiculous your nonsensical rant is.
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1 edit | On CTV News they are reporting GM wanted to centralize rear wheel production and the jobs in Ontario will be replaced with a fwd platform...
Maybe with all those fines in the USA, Toyota will move some jobs into Ontario to fill the void... LOL
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kudos:3 | I don't see GM manufacturing Toyota vehicles at their plant in Oshawa anytime soon.  |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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London, ON | i don't think he meant that.
but Subaru was contracted to build Camrys for Toyota up until fairly recently...Subaru's plant in Indiana had capacity and does a very good job at auto assembly and the facility itself is also a carbon neutral plant (or something like that)...now that their (Toyota) Mississippi plant is open, all their production is back in house...interesting fact (considering these types of stories always bring up the "foreign vs domestic" debates, the only vehicles Toyota sells that are not made in Canada or the USA are the Prius and the Yaris...as well, it likely won't be long before Prius are made here too (Yaris don't sell enough to bother)...so, buying a Toyota pretty much is buying a domestic vehicle. 
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Hamilton, ON | said by dirtyjeffer:so, buying a Toyota pretty much is buying a domestic vehicle. aren't they still building toyotas in cambridge? |
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said by dirtyjeffer: quote:
And don't worry about "Right to work" a certain blue striped provincial leader will fix that, we'll all be working for less then minimum wage soon.
a couple things...for one, are the workers at the Michigan plant making minimum wage??...no??...of course not.. Not much more, $14/hr for "new hires".
»www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/busin···all&_r=0
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Halifax, NS | reply to dirtyjeffer
said by dirtyjeffer:i don't think he meant that.
but Subaru was contracted to build Camrys for Toyota up until fairly recently...Subaru's plant in Indiana had capacity and does a very good job at auto assembly and the facility itself is also a carbon neutral plant (or something like that)...now that their (Toyota) Mississippi plant is open, all their production is back in house...interesting fact (considering these types of stories always bring up the "foreign vs domestic" debates, the only vehicles Toyota sells that are not made in Canada or the USA are the Prius and the Yaris...as well, it likely won't be long before Prius are made here too (Yaris don't sell enough to bother)...so, buying a Toyota pretty much is buying a domestic vehicle.
I thought Toyota was now considered to be domestic and one of the reasons they were allowed to race in NASCAR...
Toyota and GM used to run New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. (NUMMI) which was a plant that built GMs and Toyotas... |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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said by cog_biz_user:said by dirtyjeffer:so, buying a Toyota pretty much is buying a domestic vehicle. aren't they still building toyotas in cambridge? yes, and Woodstock. |
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dirtyjefferAnons on ignore, but not due to fear.Premium
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said by elwoodblues:said by dirtyjeffer: quote:
And don't worry about "Right to work" a certain blue striped provincial leader will fix that, we'll all be working for less then minimum wage soon.
a couple things...for one, are the workers at the Michigan plant making minimum wage??...no??...of course not.. Not much more, $14/hr for "new hires". » www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/busin···all&_r=0 hmmm...so, you post a news article that is about a Chrysler plant (when we are talking about a GM plant here), that's over a year old, and remind me what minimum wage is in Michigan??...it's $7.40/hr (i'll save you having to look it up).
and if you read your article, you would see this:
“Everybody is appreciative of a job and glad to be working,” said Derrick Chatman, who makes $14.65 an hour putting tires on Jeeps after being laid off at Home Depot, working odd construction jobs and collecting unemployment.
Last year, Chrysler was flooded with inquiries about the jobs here. It froze the list after receiving 10,000 applications.
so, everyone is appreciative of the work and glad they aren't unemployed...this guy puts tires on Jeeps...nah, you're probably right...lets pay high school dropouts $60k/year like we were doing. 
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