| Some Firefox Users Can Dump Adobe Flash Windows Firefox stiffs Adobe Flash, plays H.264 YouTube vids:
Fresh overnight builds of Firefox 20 will now play footage found on HTML5 websites, such as YouTube and Vimeo, that use the patent-encumbered video codec - without the need for Adobe's oft-criticised plugin, which also handles H.264.
The Mozilla Foundation, which makes Firefox, slipped support for the popular video compression standard into beta-test versions of its browser by drilling into Microsoft's Windows Media Foundation, which does the actual H.264 video decoding.
Mozilla is adverse to proprietary codecs because they're typically buried under patents and require a licensing fee. By using the video support built into the operating system, the open-source browser maker can sidestep these constraints.
The codec support is not enabled by default and requires at least Windows Vista, although support isn't there for Windows 8 yet. Official Firefox 20 builds are due to be released in April 2013.
Firefox for Android 4.x already supports H.264, again using the operating system and underlying hardware to decode the video for playback.
H.264, which is licensed from the MPEG-LA patent pool, remains the standard for video playback for desktop web browsing and handheld devices. |
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 LagzPremium
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| said by Lagz:It's about time. Coding to play video in browsers might become a little easier.
That's great, but can we block it like with FlashBlock extension for Flash and SilverLight videos? |
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1 edit | said by antdude:said by Lagz:It's about time. Coding to play video in browsers might become a little easier.
That's great, but can we block it like with FlashBlock extension for Flash and SilverLight videos? So you would prefer Firefox keep lagging in HTML5 compliance and still have to rely on Adobe Flash to play videos? I am glad HTML5 is enabling web developers to ditch flash. Flash has lots of vulnerabilities. You would think as long as flash has been around it would have hardened itself by now, but its developers don't seem to be in a rush. Why would they at this point, since HTML5 is replacing the need for flash.
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| said by Lagz:but its developers(apple) Lol wut? Flash is currently owned by Adobe who bought it from Macromedia...
/M |
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said by FF4m3 :Some Firefox Users Can Dump Adobe Flash I did that YEARS ago and haven't looked back. Sure it was a bit annoying at first, but I quickly got over it and have enjoyed not having blinking, loud, annoying ads suddenly start playing.
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said by mackey:said by Lagz:but its developers(apple) Lol wut? Flash is currently owned by Adobe who bought it from Macromedia... /M opps .. was thinking of something else
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why is it I can play youtube videos with no flash player on version 17 already? |
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There ought to be a FlashBlock-like extension to handle HTML5 videos, because the last thing I want is video ads autoplaying or even downloading automatically.
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kudos:2 | Technically that would be noscript. |
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I've been able to do that on Fx 10 ESR for a year or more. I joined the youtube HTML5 beta way back when Google first made it available. Back when I joined the beta (and was using Fx 4 on XP Pro) there were not many you tube videos that would play in HTML5. But youtube has been converting them and now there are lots that play in HTML5.
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 owlynPremium,MVM
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Get Adblock Plus. Free FF extension. I haven't seen an ad since installing it. |
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said by Sindows 7:why is it I can play youtube videos with no flash player on version 17 already?
You might have something else handling it. VLC media player installs a firefox plugin for one. That's what I use.
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Why does it require Vista? |
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Frankly noscript is a pain in the ass to just block specific functionality, using it being akin to masochism, and ABP won't work if the video doesn't fall under ABP's filters (not talking so much ad networks but solo efforts of the web designers to have a video start playing).
There's a way to disable autoplay in Firefox but if YouTube found a way around it everyone else can.
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| No script might be a pain to use, but if more people used it there would be less infections thus making my life easier. I use it and have no issues with it.
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I see you don't care for it in it's default mode, it's easy to have it allow all scripts globally, and then you can filter out the advertising sites so sites by default will work as intended. There's things noscript can protect you from even in the global mode also by default like cross server stuff. I like to combine noscript, and flashblock so I still get the chance to click to play for flash on sites I've allowed to run scripts.
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I'm not sure whats playing it, not vlc. |
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kudos:4 | That page says you are in the youtube HTML 5 trial...so it is WebM for Fx that is playing it. You don't need plugins to play any video that youtube has converted to HTML5 when on Fx 4 and above if you have joined the trial.
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| said by Mele20:That page says you are in the youtube HTML 5 trial...so it is WebM for Fx that is playing it. You don't need plugins to play any video that youtube has converted to HTML5 when on Fx 4 and above if you have joined the trial.
Yes it says that but I'm not signed in to youtube so I think it just says that default. |
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