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derekm

join:2008-02-26
kudos:1

There goes the neighbourhood - Cogeco to buy Peer 1

»www.montrealgazette.com/business···ory.html

As best put by others (NSFW): fuckity fuck



jack black 1

@rogers.com

what the hell is wrong with Cogeco? why are they making such a drastic change of their business from ip networks to furnature and house wears? C'mon, from selling cable tv to a Pier 1 import store?


resa1983
Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10

said by jack black 1 :

what the hell is wrong with Cogeco? why are they making such a drastic change of their business from ip networks to furnature and house wears? C'mon, from selling cable tv to a Pier 1 import store?

Peer 1, not Pier 1.

Peer 1 is a peering company, that provides transit between networks.
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dillyhammer
START me up
Premium,MVM
join:2010-01-09
Scarborough, ON
kudos:10
reply to jack black 1

Post of the day.



Mike



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

Peer 1, not Pier 1.

Peer 1 is a peering company, that provides transit between networks.

I think you're the one missing the joke, not him
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

MaynardKrebs
Heave Steve, for the good of the country
Premium
join:2009-06-17
kudos:4
reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

Post of the day.



Mike

Whadda ya expect? He's on Rogers.

cog_biz_user
i ruin threads apparently

join:2011-04-19
Hamilton, ON
reply to derekm

Was there anything wrong with Cogeco's peerings to start with? My biggest peeve with them is the lack of upload speeds... and their packet filtering.



MarketForces

@videotron.ca
reply to derekm

Prices are going to go up!



creed3020
Premium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
Reviews:
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reply to dillyhammer

said by dillyhammer:

Post of the day.



Mike

Agreed. I laughed so hard as I read that post.


Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to MarketForces

said by MarketForces :

Prices are going to go up!

It's not like Peer1 is the cheapest provider around to begin with...
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org


bbwarrior

join:2005-12-12
Saint-Laurent, QC

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said by Guspaz:

It's not like Peer1 is the cheapest provider around to begin with...

We run a hosting business and we rely on Peer1 for colocation and bandwidth, I wasn't too happy when I got the email this morning but Cogeco will have to play by the market rules. There is no monopoly here, if they're raising prices we will move it's that simple.


JunjiHiroma
Live Free Or Die

join:2008-03-18
reply to derekm

This doesn't stop bell (and other big telco's) from buying peering networks. /startsarcasm Whatcould they possibly do if they bought all the peering networks out? /endsarcasm



Guspaz
Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to derekm

Bell already directly competes with companies like Peer1, and it's not particularly hard to start up a new such company (it doesn't have the massive cost wall like the wireless or last-mile businesses do).
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org


cog_biz_user
i ruin threads apparently

join:2011-04-19
Hamilton, ON

said by Guspaz:

Bell already directly competes with companies like Peer1, and it's not particularly hard to start up a new such company (it doesn't have the massive cost wall like the wireless or last-mile businesses do).

As well as Shaw and Rogers.


milnoc

join:2001-03-05
H3B
kudos:2

Cogeco can afford to raise Peer1's prices. Cologix (formerly Canix) tried to slap me with an 86% price increase via a bogus "cable maintenance" charge at the end of my contract this year. The colocation industry is taking advantage of the growing cloud industry and the growing need for colocation space by jacking up the prices across the board.

At this rate, It'll be cheaper for me to build my own datacenter.
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Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
reply to derekm

I was looking for colocation a while ago and decided to stick with dedicated servers for the time being, prices are much higher for bandwith, especially wth most dedicated providers providing 10 TB+ now with their servers. Also with all the acquisitions, prices are going up not down... Not good news.



Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to derekm

With the kind of things and prices you can get in dedicated servers these days (especially with pricing like OVH's), very few people actually need colocation. Unless you're talking about a very very large deployment, it would be hard to be more cost efficient colocating a single server.

$59/mth gets you unmetered 100 megabit, $119/mth gets you 8TB (4x2TB) of storage... Considering you've got to pay for the hardware on top of all monthly expenses for colocation, you'd need to have pretty custom requirements to be worth it.
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pstewart
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join:2005-10-12
Peterborough, ON
kudos:1
reply to resa1983

said by resa1983:

said by jack black 1 :

what the hell is wrong with Cogeco? why are they making such a drastic change of their business from ip networks to furnature and house wears? C'mon, from selling cable tv to a Pier 1 import store?

Peer 1, not Pier 1.

Peer 1 is a peering company, that provides transit between networks.

No - Peer1 is a co-location company that provides connectivity. They do peer with other providers in certain markets but they are not a "peering company". They also "dabble" once a in a while in providing IP Transit services to other ISP's but they are not a big player in that space....

Cyborg994

join:2005-04-18
Montreal, QC
reply to Guspaz

I agree, but when you need more RAM, Hardware Raid and/or SSD drives, colocation can be more affordable the dedicated. At least it used to be...



Guspaz
Guspaz
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join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to derekm

It used to be, but... 8GB of RAM for $39/mth, 16GB of RAM for $49/mth, 32GB of RAM for $89/mth, 64GB of RAM for $169/mth...

Those are the prices of the cheapest servers with that amount of RAM. I doubt many people need more than 64GB of RAM in a single node. There comes a point where it's better to scale horizontally than vertically anyhow.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org