Topic 'Who are the TPIAs?' in forum 'Canadian Broadband' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846364 en Mon, 20 May 2013 09:05:19 EDT Mon, 20 May 2013 09:05:19 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27860364 said by c2roth:

Thanks! That is seriously buried. No way to really notice a link hiding in that wall of text. CRTC website is borderline useless.

said by Teddy Boom:

said by Guspaz:

IIRC eBox was talking about Ontario cable. They may be in testing mode.

Ya, I remember that.. maybe. Even if it is eBox, we are still missing one, and we still don't have strong confirmation that CIK is one. Who signs up with Rogers to be a TPIA and then doesn't do ANY marketing? Distributel subsidiary maybe?

My gut feeling is that members of the Distributel family are being counted independently.

They wouldn't be. Distributel itself is the legal entity with the wholesale contract and TPIA interconnections. Acanac just uses the same pipes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27860364 Thu, 27 Dec 2012 18:42:44 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27860061 said by c2roth:

My gut feeling is that members of the Distributel family are being counted independently.

Well, I did hear vague hints about Acanac moving towards aggregated at least a couple of months before I heard about Teksavvy doing the same. I guess it is possible that they are talking about the "known" four (CIK, Distributel, Start, Teksavvy), but they do very specifically say four TPIAs on aggregated.

I'd let this rest, but I'd really like to reduce the mystery around CIK too. We still don't have solid confirmation that they are a direct TPIA, though they almost certainly are. I wish somebody on CIK would post a tracert, for example ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27860061 Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:51:47 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846862
said by Teddy Boom:

said by Guspaz:

IIRC eBox was talking about Ontario cable. They may be in testing mode.

Ya, I remember that.. maybe. Even if it is eBox, we are still missing one, and we still don't have strong confirmation that CIK is one. Who signs up with Rogers to be a TPIA and then doesn't do ANY marketing? Distributel subsidiary maybe?

My gut feeling is that members of the Distributel family are being counted independently.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846862 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:25:47 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846838 said by bt:

said by Teddy Boom:

and we still don't have strong confirmation that CIK is one.

They've got 75Mbps available, and I'm pretty sure Rogers isn't letting any non-agg have access to that.

Yes, for sure, but...

I asked about them in April last year:
»CIK Telecom advertising GTA cable service
At that point I dug up a RFD thread where CIK was caught advertising 7mbps DSL at a time when that wasn't possible. Left me wondering about the reality..
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electronicsguru.ca]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846838 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:14:46 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846810 said by Teddy Boom:

and we still don't have strong confirmation that CIK is one.

They've got 75Mbps available, and I'm pretty sure Rogers isn't letting any non-agg have access to that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846810 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:07:39 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846808 said by Guspaz:

IIRC eBox was talking about Ontario cable. They may be in testing mode.

Ya, I remember that.. maybe. Even if it is eBox, we are still missing one, and we still don't have strong confirmation that CIK is one. Who signs up with Rogers to be a TPIA and then doesn't do ANY marketing? Distributel subsidiary maybe?
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electronicsguru.ca]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846808 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:06:25 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846794 said by c2roth:

Where are you seeing four TPIAs in Roger's cover letter for TN29? I've read that short document and don't see mention anywhere a count of the number of providers.

Click my first link, the 29 toward the top in the large print leads to a zip file download. In that you'll find a file named "Rogers Cover Ltr - TN 29_Nov7-2012 .pdf". On page 3 of that document it reads:
Number of customers affected:
Rogers currently has 4 TPIA customers who have 1,680 end-users in total on 18, 28 and 32 Mbps aggregated POI TPIA services.

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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846511 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:36:42 EDT Re: Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846486 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846486 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:28:13 EDT Who are the TPIAs? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Who-are-the-TPIAs-27846364
In the cover letter for TN29, Rogers says there are 4 aggregated TPIAs. In the cover letter to TN30, Rogers says there are a total of 7 individual customers across 3 aggregated TPIAs subscribed to 75mbps service.

That raises an obvious question, who are the other two aggregated TPIAs?

edit: some links..
»www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2012/r28_29.htm
»www.crtc.gc.ca/8740/eng/2012/r28_30.htm

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