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Re: [WIN7] Flash kills my PC

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Have you tried looking in compmgmt.msc to see if there are any error messages hitting your system's logs? That's a good starting point. I don't deal with Win7 but on XP it's Start...Run... enter in compmgmt.msc you'll see event logs.

I used to at least know what to look for in Windows XP's event viewer, but I've yet to be able to figure out how to see what I need to see in Windows 7's version of it.

Even when I was able to see any errors, the only ones that would ever show up are those of it complaining about being shut down inappropriately, and NEVER about how flash FUBAR'd shit up
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Also unless you have a specific reason to use the latest flash version, why not just use a known stable old version? Uninstall the new flash, it's known crap, reboot, install the known good version, reboot, then you're computer's good to go. I'm using a seriously old version and I've never seen a website where the content doesn't play properly if it's flash based. v10 for the plugin, v11 for the activex, and get the raw setup from oldversion.com or something.

And don't worry about flash too much, it's so yesterday.
Please also turn off auto updates. Only update if there's a specific reason. Especially from a hack company like adobe.

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If you have a freeze it's generally hardware related, as in drivers allowed something to happen that shouldn't of happened, or some critical component of the operating system failed which could still be drivers. This is why I'm bringing up legacy drivers, if your 285 no longer has any real updated drivers, and they just updated physx/etc then this will likely continue to be a problem.

If flash, or the browser is just crashing, that's far more acceptable than drivers allowing something to cause the system to freeze.

I would assume your 8800 is on legacy drivers at this point, and likely also your 285 due to it's age.

If flash just crashes in chrome, and is recoverable then use that, you won't even need flash installed separately.

Also just because you run a 64-bit os, basically for the only reason of Microsoft forced people who have 4GB or more of memory to take full advantage of it instead of fully enabling pae doesn't mean you have to run 64-bit software.
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I suggest this, grab a video from yt, anything it doesn't matter, and play it using vlc or winamp. Does it work that way? Once you start knocking out things that aren't the cause, then maybe you can focus in on what might be the cause of your errant system's problems.

In the following don't install any retard toolbars or anything related to that. Don't just click OK to everything, you probably know that already but I had to say it.
Get vlc and winamp.
Grab youtubedownloader.
Grab this from yt, it could be anything, but I had to pick something and it's from Australia as is this site's owner Justin.

Crowded House - Fall At Your Feet (1991) HD

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Problem is, now I don't know which is going to be a "good" version of it anymore.

11.3 has a known issue where no video from youtube plays at all, with the only solution being upgrade or downgrade. And youtube won't allow any videos to play at all on 10.* or earlier.

I uninstalled Waterfox 16 and went to firefox 17, and it auto-installed the current version... and of course that crashed. Chrome eventually crashed the system, too.

I already am running the current version of nvidia's drivers - 310.70... heck, unlike ATI, these drivers would even still be good for my old 6600GT, where they obsolesced out support for the last Radeon card I bought six weeks after I bought it for another system that didn't have integrated graphics to go on.

Creative's site has listed no real driver update for the X-Fi in a while. Just some different software components. I also went and reinstalled the current/last chipset drivers that they had.
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How many flash videos per page/thread and how many "are" running? We did a simple test about 6 years ago on a Private web site. I am curious when your running into problems.

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How do I get VLC to play stuff on Youtube when Youtube demands that I install Flash Player to actually see the content in the first place? This is where I'm confused.

Reinstalling the chipset drivers - a step I didn't really think would do anything - seemed to grant me some more time. Strangely, noticed that while playing, task manager would show two instances of the Flash Player Plugin, particularly when I select to have the video full-screen. I was just getting toward the end of SDA's Blaster Master Speed run for one of their "Awesome Games Done Quick" marathons before the video stopped, only to be followed by the audio, and followed suit by the PC just completely freezing over.

Only driver I've yet to uninstall and reinstall now would be the sound card. Downloading that as I type this. I'd really like for this bullshit to end, given that I got a vacay to go to in less than a week.
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Reinstalled the sound card drivers. At first, i was hesitant because I thought I would have to do a full uninstall and (re)install.

Reinstalled Flash via Firefox's auto-download of it. Naturally now, set it to not auto-look for updates.

So far, so good.
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Well, sadly, while it was doing good for a few days, it ended up crashing again.

Right now on vacay, just popping in quick to post this.

It had been problem free for a few days, but if I recall correctly, it ended up crashing when there were like three or four pages all trying to load Flash Player at once.

Another anomaly I don't understand is how when I was looking at the Task Manager, I now notice two instances of the Flash Player executable running - one wtih a teeny amount of RAM, another with more, whenever I run into a site that uses it for any reason. YouTube is the most common site that seems to kill my PC, because it is requiring me to have such a recent build installed in order to actually play any videos on it. I noticed that with other sites I go to for videos don't require as new a build as YouTube does.

I meant to post this sooner, but I won't be able to get back to my PC to do anything about it until Saturday, anyway.
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I get home, start up watching some Gamecenter CX episodes on YouTube... crashes then. Dafuq, man?

Updated firefox... again... to 18 now. When is this madness going to stop!?
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Whelp, today I made time to clean out my PC, and among other things, add a fan to the H50 so I can have a proper push-pull for airflow.

As I was unplugging and about to start reseating everything in the machine, that's when I noticed this...

Being black, it was probably just a ground. There are multiples, so unless the other wires were undersize or the card really pushes to the current limit, I doubt if it would make a difference. Although if it was intermittent, it could have been causing small glitches.

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Re: [WIN7] Flash kills my PC

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did you try sfc /scannow ?
»www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/15···ker.html

any errors?

Didn't try that yet... it was quite the puzzle just finding a way to run the command line so it'll actually let me do it.

Verification finished and found no integrity violations. So I don't know what else I could say...
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try running this uninstaller.
»helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/···ows.html

First use Ccleaner and clear your cache, make sure FF or any other browser is not running.
run the uninstaller after cleaning cache.

Goto my computer>tools>folder options>view>select show hidden files and folders, uncheck hide protected operating system files.

search for any folders named Adobe and folders named Macromed and delete them all.

go into task scheduler and look for flash update service, if its there, delete it.

reboot.

run the uninstaller again for good measure.
run ccleaner and scan the registry for errors, fix the errors found and back up the repairs, just in case.

run ccleaner and scan the registry for errors again.
keep repeating until it finds nothing.

then reboot again.

run the flash installer »www.adobe.com/products/flashplay···on3.html and select never check for updates.

If that doesn't fix it, it will be something else like chipset drivers, etc.

BTW copy this text to a text file so you dont have to use any browsers to follow the steps.

download the stuff first before starting.

»www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard