ImmerGentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA |
Immer
Premium Member
2012-Dec-24 8:27 am
Re: [Classes] 5.0.4 Healing Priestsaid by Patch5.2PTR : Priest
Power Word: Solace has been redesigned. • Power Word: Solace replaces Holy Fire. It deals the same damage and interacts with other spells and abilities in the same manner, but is instant, costs no mana, and restores 1% of maximum mana on each cast.
Dominate Mind now has a 1.8 second cast time (was 2.5 seconds). Angelic Feather now has a 6 second duration (was 4 seconds). Body and Soul now has a 3 second duration (was 4 seconds). Glyph of Holy Fire has been redesigned. It now increases the range of Holy Fire, Smite, and Power Word: Solace by 10 yards.
Discipline •Focused Will now reduces damage taken by 15% per stack, with a limit of 2 stacks. •Spirit Shell no longer benefits from Mastery, and now properly includes the benefits of Divine Aegis and critical effect chance. •Rapture now provides mana equal to 250% (was 200%) of the Priest's Spirit, but no longer benefits from Spirit provided by short duration bonuses.
So, here we go. This is a nerf to both the HolyDPS spec I was playing with and Disc... but not a deal breaker by any stretch. This will also have a huge affect on which trinkets we equip, and I suppose I might have to take a look at Lightweave instead of Darkweave now.. well... in 5.2. |
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cymraegThread Killer Premium Member join:2011-06-07 Dodge, NE |
cymraeg
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2012-Dec-24 11:43 am
that really isnt that much of a nerf to Disc Immer, SS was double dipping into Mastery, in the initial bubble and the consequent divine aegis proc so the absorbs were huge just from spamming Prayer of Healing, I'll keep my SS and PoH macroed though. |
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ImmerGentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA |
Immer
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2012-Dec-26 9:44 am
Disc: The change to SS is a huge nerf, it's just not really an unfair one. I dislike the change to glyph of HF. Now I will have to compare PW:Solace to Mindbender directly (where before I didn't need to). PW:Solace will most likely become the defacto choice for smite healers. It's a shame to lose the extra rapture benefit I got from Darkglow procs.
HolyDPS: I now prefer HolyDPS build for dailies. You want to know what is ridiculous? Opening up at 76k+ dps on trash pulls with nothing more than Divine Star and MindSear, lol. On really short fights stuff would die with my dmg done being higher than my wife's hunter (only if stampede was on CD).
Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, Priests! |
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Immer
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2013-Jan-8 1:34 pm
I did an LFR as Holy DPS and fared passably well. While I was in the bottom of the dps meters (competing with a warlock and a retadin for the penultimate spot), I was also hanging with the sixth healer on healing done. So, 35k dps and 18k hps being provided by the same person is little different from a disc healer just doing his thing. However, my mana was near infinite. To make a go of actual dps I could reforge out of a great deal of SPR into HASTE to crank out some better numbers.
Ultimately, though... if you are a healer at heart, you'll find yourself bored with this about 4 minutes into every boss fight. It's a novelty... a nice diversion... and a GREAT way to knock out dailies... but rather boring in a raid. I'd rather just heal and do some dmg on the side, than vice versa... but for you shadow priests out there that want a way to contribute some healing CDs to a fight... going holy dps build might be the answer for you. |
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said by Immer: but for you shadow priests out there that want a way to contribute some healing CDs to a fight... going holy dps build might be the answer for you. I may try that one of these days but I am rather comfortable with my 55-60k DPS and 8-10k HPS as shadow |
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ImmerGentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA |
Immer
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2013-Jan-9 9:08 am
absolutely. SP already puts out some healing. But if the raid could use a Divine Hymn, Lightwell/Lightspring, or Guardian spirit, holy dps might prevent benching someone or calling the raid. |
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Noted... good thing I have a holy spec I guess |
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to Immer
Question for anyone knowledgeable about Discipline priests:
When trying to decipher some healing issues my group has had on Grand Empress, I was reviewing our Disc Priest's "Healed Who" meters. He had healed himself nearly as much as one tank and substantially more than the 2nd tank.
Tank healing is our current problem (knowing that our 3rd healer isn't performing well and needs to be replaced).
Is there a game mechanics reason that the Disc Priest's healing done to himself should be so high or is he doing something else (wrong)? |
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ImmerGentleman Premium Member join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA |
Immer
Premium Member
2013-Jan-22 10:52 am
There are a couple of things that might be going on. It could simply be that he has a broken healing macro, so when he thinks he's healing via mouseover, he is just healing himself. (if he's healing himself more than he is healing a tank, this is probably what is happening)
What spells is he firing? He might be over-doing the Binding Heal. Is there a log we can look through?
edit: On Empress... he might have been eating that Cry of Terror debuff and standing in a dissonance field, therefore having to heal himself up a lot. I doubt this would cause the problem on its own, but it could be a contributing factor. |
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Eumaeus
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2013-Jan-22 10:59 am
I'll have to record one tonight. Have been pretty lax about logging lately. Also stuck at work so I can't see if my Skada still has any attempts recorded.
Will keep an eye on it in our raid today though. Just wanted to see if there may be a class mechanic causing it to happen, be it proper or not. Too much binding heal could be a plausible explanation.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll bring more info or any results tomorrow. Grand Empress was wrecking me and the other tank due to this and a poorly performing shaman. Our mistweaver monk was kicking ass at least, haha! |
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Carpie join:2012-10-19 united state |
Carpie
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2013-Jan-22 11:44 am
I heal Disc atonement style and while I've never actually looked at the numbers in this way, I'm not OVERLY surprised (though still think something is amiss for it to be THAT close). A couple of things to remember with atonement style healing:
1) My first step: Bubble the tank. Bubble equals dmg prevention which means I don't have to heal him.
2) My second step: Atone heal. Spam Holy Fire, penance, and smite as much as possible and this heals everyone in proximity (though the heals for me (the atoning priest) are cut by 50%)
3) During a large dmg spike when I see the tank get below 75%, generally I just bubble him and start atoning again and it gets him back up there and it's business as usual. In the times that everyone needs a lift, I'll Prayer of Mending (maybe it's PoHealing, my memory of spell names isn't that great) which heals all the group and ends with a bubble for everyone.
4) And then yes, there are many times where I need to heal myself quick for self preservation so I'll ctrl + penance or ctrl + Greater Heal for the self heals. I would think it is fair to say I do the self GHs/Penance as much as a tank GH/Penance since I don't need to do them that often.
Having said all that though, I still think the healing to the tank would be considerably greater than to the Priest since they are taking the most dmg. Exceptions may also be on how well the tank is self healing. |
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Carpie
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2013-Jan-22 11:46 am
Oh yeah and some halos once in awhile too. They just look too cool to bench. Love them on the Sha fight (though have to keep Fade close at hand afterwards). |
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AdaliciaOm Nom Nom join:2009-10-13 Lincoln, NE |
to Carpie
PoH is what you were thinking of. You should have PoM going on CD regardless...
PoM is arguably one of the best healing spells in the game. |
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