[Servers] Help setting up Switch & Router. So lately I've been thinking of optimizing my home network. Here's what I'm thinking:
quote:Basically what im trying to accomplish here is having Gigabit speeds between my computer and my server, and enable QoS on the router to control the internet speeds on the WiFi clients (DDWRT).
[ Modem ] -- [ Switch (powerconnect 2708) ]
...................... [ Me ]....[ Home Server ]....[ Router ] -- WiFi Clients
The thing is, I believe the switch will assign each port to an external IP. I would like to be able to reach my home server, and possibly the WiFi clients through internal IPs. I would also like the WiFi clients to be able to reach the server. Anyone have any ideas how I can achieve this?
Here's my layout right now:
quote:But with this setup if I limit the speeds with QoS, it'll limit my speeds as well. Yeah I know I can exclude myself from the QoS, but you have to specify the DOWN / UP speeds you get with your provider, and it'll limit it to those (every computer even the excluded ones will be limited to the down/up set in the settings).
[ Modem ] -- [ Router ] -- WiFi Clients
...................[ Switch ]
...................[ Me ] [ Server ]
The thing with my ISP is that my speeds usually surpass what they are suppose to be, so I would like to maximize the speeds on my own PC.
Thanks, hopefully this isnt too confusing.
*** Sorry for the dots in the diagram, forum trims too many spaces
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Unless your modem is also a router/dhcp server, it won't work. Also, QoS settings should only affect lan to wan traffic and not lan/lan traffic. I'm not familiar with using DDWRT but you may be able to exclude certain machines from your QoS settings using the MAC addresses of those machines, then any settings will only apply to the machines not explicitly excepted.
mozerdLight Will Pierce The DarknessPremium,MVM
reply to Johny
Your setup should be as follows:
Modem -->> Router -->> switch
Switch -->> Home Server
Switch -- >> all other wired connections [Access Point]
Assuming your Router is an integrated device that includes a wireless Access Point your wireless clients would connect directly to the Router and bypass your switch. By using a dedicated AP your switch could provide QoS to your wireless clients.
Your Router will [assuming it has QoS] control bandwidth allocation to all devices in a manner of speaking. Your switch can also control QoS but only for traffic it manages between its own clients subjugated by your Router.
If you want more granularity of control you will need to separate the AP function to be a dedicated AP and connect that to your Switch.
Everything depends on how granular your Router is --- if its a consumer brand router you have very little granularity of control consequently your options will be very limited --- you may be able to improve that granularity by using 3rd party firmware that others may be happy to expand upon. FYI, most 3rd party firmware I have tried are resource hogs -- some [very few] are not but poorly documented -- very heavy learning curve to get things right.
A very good router that provides a lot of granularity is the ZyWALL USG series starting with the USG 50 model assuming no more than 10 users will access its services .... then for wireless I suggest the Netgear WNDR4500 in AP mode.
If your Home server is Windows Home Server then you could use its built-in VPN service called RDP to connect to all your home clients by taking advantage of its services and in that case your Router would need to be configured to allow WHS to provide remote connectivity.
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reply to Johny
DDWRT QOS config guide here
The long and short of it here is "why are complicating things and QOS'ing / penalizing ONLY the wireless
users?" My recommendation is to stick to the KISS principle in your design unless you have a very specfic reason(s)
to do this, especially if this is a home setup.
If you insist on this, put the DDWRT router that is doing QOS as the same one feeding wireless, then put
another (nonDDWRT) router at the head end towards your ISP with no QOS config, especially as aguen notes
if the modem is not doing any NAT / RFC1918 DHCP services.
reply to Johny
Thanks for the help guys, I got it working the way I wanted it to. Thanks for all the replies.
I want to penalize the WiFi clients because when I'm gaming, since my upload speed is fairly slow, if my sister starts to upload pictures to Facebook it begins to bottleneck the network and I start to lag like hell. Limiting all my wifi clients to a couple kb/s from my max helps my ping stay stable, and still lets them upload at a decent speed.