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chabu
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2012-Dec-24 10:00 pm
samsung smart tv 46 "Does anyone have experience with the above noted tv? There is deal at costco for $989 plus taxes Is there a better deal anywhere else? |
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A model number would be helpful and avsforum would probably have a review if it's worthwhile (or a better place to ask with more people that would see it) - » www.avsforum.com/f/166/l ··· displaysI rarely see any deals on electronics at Costco, usually its discontinued, recalled or low-end stuff that's repackaged to sell at a super-duper low price (which is really an appropriate price). |
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My2Cents
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2012-Dec-25 12:09 pm
said by urbanriot:I rarely see any deals on electronics at Costco, usually its discontinued, recalled or low-end stuff that's repackaged to sell at a super-duper low price (which is really an appropriate price). Well that's just not true, Costco sells decent stuff. There are plenty of mid and high end products, though some might be last year's model, its still good stuff. As for recalled, thats just false, otherwise Costco would get sued left right and center. Keep this in perspective, Costco screens their merchandise to the point where manufacturers beg them to put their products on Costco's shelves. |
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If its the Samsung UN46EH5300 just 2 weeks ago I picked up the 50" version so I can chime in but I'll wait until we get a model number. |
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chabu
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2012-Dec-25 2:44 pm
my apologies.. the model number is UN46ES6100FXZC and i picked it up from costco for $989 plus taxes. I can return it in 90 days if i wish. Going to set it up today. |
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Like UR said check out AVS forums as there should be a dedicated thread to your model, I did a lot of reading there for a couple days before I picked up mine.
You know they're hardcore when they talk about such things as the "panel lottery", which from what I've read don't quite buy into. |
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said by My2Cents :As for recalled, thats just false, otherwise Costco would get sued left right and center. Uh huh... another casualty to the Costco Coolaid. They wouldn't get sued if they stamped a Costco-only model number on it after they fixed their issue. Happens with plenty of the items you see for sale at Costco which is why there are Costco-only models. It's similar to Future Shop except Future Shop gets FS-only models so they can outsell everyone. FS's HP models of stuff is often incremented by a couple numbers. |
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My2Cents
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2012-Dec-25 6:06 pm
said by urbanriot:said by My2Cents :As for recalled, thats just false, otherwise Costco would get sued left right and center. Uh huh... another casualty to the Costco Coolaid. They wouldn't get sued if they stamped a Costco-only model number on it after they fixed their issue. Happens with plenty of the items you see for sale at Costco which is why there are Costco-only models. It's similar to Future Shop except Future Shop gets FS-only models so they can outsell everyone. FS's HP models of stuff is often incremented by a couple numbers. Well sir, you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, as am I entitled to mine. I dont know how Canada handles it, but in America, selling known defective items even under a modified model number is grounds for a lawsuit. Regardless, my personal experience with Costco has been excellent. Their stuff is not cutting edge but of decent quality. The warranty is usually 2X of retail stores. You got a problem? Take it back and they replace it for you. Which is more than I can say for FS. Heard bad things about FS and BB in Canada, bought only thing ever (that damn HP laptop), and it broke down at day 370. Thats a failure rate of 100% for a mid-high range product, and both FS & HP Canada said its not their problem. Now, whose coolaid do you think I am gonna drink? |
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They're not selling a broken product, that's not what I wrote. it was defective, they recalled the units, fixed the issues and put them out with a Costco-only model. I'm not referring to all their electronics product, only much of it, plenty of stuff that won't sell in normal retail outlets due to popularity issues, quality issues, product recalls, or discontinuance. It's not the same as what they do with EHS.
It's simply an aspect of that 'buy stuff here cause we're cheaper' idea they want people to buy into. I wasn't saying you can't get a great deal on something that's right for you, I'm just suggesting a person do a little investigating first since a lot of their stuff is not as current as the stuff you can get elsewhere... |
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dennilfloss Liberal And Loving It Premium Member join:2001-09-09 Ottawa, ON
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Is that the TV that some can hack and use to spy on the owner? |
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HiVolt Premium Member join:2000-12-28 Toronto, ON |
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said by urbanriot:It's similar to Future Shop except Future Shop gets FS-only models so they can outsell everyone. FS's HP models of stuff is often incremented by a couple numbers. The purpose of that is to not allow price matching. That kind of stuff has been going on for years... However recently I started noticing FS/BB having a decent TV on sale, but they are gimped with usually 2 HDMI ports, instead of the usual 3 or 4 that most TV's have. Screw that. |
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2012-Dec-25 9:36 pm
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said by urbanriot:They're not selling a broken product, that's not what I wrote. it was defective, they recalled the units, fixed the issues and put them out with a Costco-only model. I'm not referring to all their electronics product, only much of it, plenty of stuff that won't sell in normal retail outlets due to popularity issues, quality issues, product recalls, or discontinuance. It's not the same as what they do with EHS.
It's simply an aspect of that 'buy stuff here cause we're cheaper' idea they want people to buy into. I wasn't saying you can't get a great deal on something that's right for you, I'm just suggesting a person do a little investigating first since a lot of their stuff is not as current as the stuff you can get elsewhere... First, I definitely agree that a person should shop around to get the best price per their liking. Although, if something had an issue, and was recalled and fixed, then there is really no issue. Keep in mind that many things these days can't really be "fixed", and entire components have to be redesigned and swapped. You can buy cheap, or you can pay a little more for service and reliability. You can have the latest and greatest from FS and BB at retail price (or sale as they call it, 200% markup with 50% off, ha!), or you can pay less for last year's model with actual service. My 2 Cents really... haha |
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said by urbanriot:I rarely see any deals on electronics at Costco, usually its discontinued, recalled or low-end stuff that's repackaged to sell at a super-duper low price (which is really an appropriate price). Sometimes they'll have one or two TV models that are decent and being sold at a real sweet price which may go to the whole not popular or selling elsewhere idea, but more often than not it's no different - and no worse e.g. not recalled stuff or any fud like that - than buying something at FS or BB. A lot of manufacturers have "club" models that they put out specifically for Costo or Sam's Club. HP was notorious for this kind of stuff when I was there. These models are no different or older except for a slightly different model number and, sometimes, a lesser manufacturer warranty because the store will extend it automatically. |
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FaxCap join:2002-05-25 Surrey, BC
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The only thing I can say about Costco and TVs is the fact they get beat on pricing regularly. Visions just kills Costco on the same models. I regularly see Visions beating Costco by anywhere from $100 to $250 on big LED LCD TVs.
I have a top of the line Samsung that's 2 1/2 years old. People are still stunned by the picture quality and it's not even a LED LCD just a backlit LCD. But it was their 750B absolute top end back then.
My girl friend's mother's LG plasma looks like shit compared to my Sammy.
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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2012-Dec-26 8:57 am
said by FaxCap:My girl friend's mother's LG plasma looks like shit compared to my Sammy. That's because LG makes shitty PDPs. Get a Samsung or Panasonic Plasma from the same year as your LCD and they will blow your LCD out of the water for PQ. |
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2012-Dec-26 11:10 am
said by Gone:That's because LG makes shitty PDPs. Get a Samsung or Panasonic Plasma from the same year as your LCD and they will blow your LCD out of the water for PQ. We'll agree to disagree. I have never cared for plasma displays. The best picture I've seen lately are the 8000 series Samsungs FaxCap |
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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2012-Dec-26 3:09 pm
Plasmas only look bad if you're viewing them in a super bright room. If you don't have overwhelming sunshine or retail-style florescent lighting a plasma of the same generation will always look better than an LCD with vastly superior contrast ratios on even entry-level models that are only matched by the highest of the high-end LCDs. You say you like Samsung's 8000-series LCDs. Fine. Look at a Samsung 8000-series PDP in a not an overwhelmingly bright room and prepare to be amazed. The problem is that people don't compare Apples to Apples when comparing the PQ of a Plasma to an LCD, and there is a lot of FUD out there regarding image retention and phosphor life. That, and some people don't know the proper brightness settings to set a TV and set their LCDs to retail torch mode which makes the colours look bright but destroys the contrast ratio. Recently I got into an argument with my uncle when he swore up and down that the phosphors on my year old Samsung PDP are only good for 10,000 hours. Yeah, sure. He forgot to add a 0. |
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Psyczdy
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2012-Dec-26 4:35 pm
Burn ins are a non issue these days, but they were for the early generations of plasmas. |
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2012-Dec-26 4:36 pm
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Burn ins are a non issue these days, but they were for the early generations of plasmas. |
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Gone Premium Member join:2011-01-24 Fort Erie, ON |
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2012-Dec-26 4:38 pm
Yeah. Image persistence can be annoying sometimes, but it goes away quickly when you watch something else that has moving images. |
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Reflection is becoming an non issues, starting with Panasonics ST Plasma level, they introduce something called NEO Plasma that reduces the glare. LED's besides burning bloody bright, have a matte finish and reduce some of the picture quality. |
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2012-Dec-26 9:14 pm
There are plenty of LED-backlit LCDs that have glossy finishes, just like there are plenty of PDPs that have AR coatings on the glass. |
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dirtyjeffer0Posers don't use avatars. Premium Member join:2002-02-21 London, ON |
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said by urbanriot:I rarely see any deals on electronics at Costco, usually its discontinued, recalled or low-end stuff that's repackaged to sell at a super-duper low price (which is really an appropriate price). not true at all. in the case of TVs, Costco will likely have unique model numbers, but not because they were "repaired" or whatever...depending on the product, the reason for their unique part numbers are due to one of two reasons...one, it is a US item being sold here (so not available at other Canadian retailers, which is why you won't find it on brandxyz.ca website)..secondly, it could be a model specifically made for Costco...for example, the ABC5000 is available at FS and BB for $1499, but Costco has ABC4500 which has 2 HDMI (instead of 4 HDMI) and it is $1199, everything else about the TV is the same...FS and BB will order 1000 of these TVs from BRAND XYZ whereas Costco will order 10000. for the OP, consider buying the extended warranty from Costco for your TV...TVs are usually pretty reliable, but if something goes wrong, you throw it in the garbage and buy a new one since you can't really repair them economically any more...while FS charges you $450 for a 4 year warranty, Costco sells their 5 year warranty for $70 (for TVs under $1000, or $100 for TVs over $1000)...just a thought. |
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I got the 40" version: UN40ES6100 back in the summer and I'm pretty happy with it. I use it to stream videos directly from my PC to the TV without burning CDs/DVDs.
Check out the ES6100 thread on avsforums for calibration data to improve the picture quality somewhat. |
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we purchased a 55" Samsung LCD from Costco in the summer when it was on sale...it was the 6000 series (which is also on sale now for under $1000)...when we bought it, we paid about $1200 for it, but it was selling elsewhere for about $1700, so not only did we save about $500 for what other places were selling it for at the time, but the extended warranty was only $100 there, so for $400 less than everywhere else, we got the same TV with 5 years of warranty instead of just 1 year from everywhere else (factory warranty). |
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said by Gone:Yeah. Image persistence can be annoying sometimes, but it goes away quickly when you watch something else that has moving images. yea, all new plasmas (even my plasma, which is about 6 years old now) doesn't retain images for very long...they go away after a few minutes of regular viewing. |
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thanks... great advce about the warranty.. if i keep the tv, i will get the warranty.. How fussy is the Costco regarding warranty... Do they give the runaround... |
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Checked out the avs forums, but it is difficult to register on it... did not accept my registration 2 days ago how do you stream videos directly from PC to Tv |
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dirtyjeffer0Posers don't use avatars. Premium Member join:2002-02-21 London, ON |
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the first 2 years of warranty are through Costco...the extra 3 years are through the company that provides the warranty (Square Trade)...in both cases, there is a number you call and a technician will come to your house...as i said, TVs are usually pretty reliable, but you can't really go wrong for $70...gives you piece of mind for 5 years...for $450 (like stores sell it for), i understand the "take your chances", since the TV is only twice that much to buy new anyway. |
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chabu
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2012-Dec-27 1:28 pm
Have the brochure from Square Trade...but dont know what is covered under the warranty.... complet replacement of the Tv if it cannot be fixed? Wh decides if it is fixed? The customer ot Square Trade or Costco? |
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