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couttsj

join:2010-07-29
Vernon, BC

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reply to Tornado15550

Re: IPV6 availability on TELUS Optik Internet

There is no urgency of moving to IPV6. As someone has already said, IPv6 does not offer any advantage except that NAT is no longer necessary. The disadvantage is that if you use IPv6 on your private network, all the machines and all the software on that network must use IPv6. For example, there are a lot of email programs out there still in use that do not support IPv6.

The more likely scenario is that when IPv6 is finally implemented, many private networks will continue to use IPv4 and NAT; the only difference being that NAT will translate between IPv4 and IPv6 instead of between private and public addresses.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by couttsj:

For example, there are a lot of email programs out there still in use that do not support IPv6.

nonsense.


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reply to couttsj

quote:
For example, there are a lot of email programs out there still in use that do not support IPv6.

Sounds to like nonsense, without..

#1 the names of those programs.

#2 stating your sources (URLs) of where you got that info from.

Thanks

couttsj

join:2010-07-29
Vernon, BC

said by anon user :

quote:
For example, there are a lot of email programs out there still in use that do not support IPv6.

Sounds to like nonsense, without..

#1 the names of those programs.

#2 stating your sources (URLs) of where you got that info from.

Thanks

IPv6-capable
* Thunderbird 2 (note, you must enable IPv6 DNS queries)
* Windows Mail (on Windows Vista)
* Windows Live Mail (on XP and Vista)
* Apple Mail.app
* Microsoft Outlook 2007
* GyazMail 1.5.8 and higher
* Balsa 2.3
* Sylpheed 2.x, except on Windows
* Opera

Not IPv6-capable
* Mulberry 4
* Outlook Express 6
* Outlook 2003 SP3
* Eudora 7
* Forte Agent 4.2
* Chandler 1.0.3

»wikispaces.psu.edu/display/ipv6/···+Support

I was using an older version of Eudora, but since Eudora is no longer supported and will never be able to support IPv6, I chose to write my own email client program. One of the most widely used Email Client programs (Outhouse Excuse/Outlook Express) will not support IPv6 and is no longer supported by Microsoft.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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said by couttsj:

Not IPv6-capable
* Mulberry 4
* Outlook Express 6
* Outlook 2003 SP3
* Eudora 7
* Forte Agent 4.2
* Chandler 1.0.3

»wikispaces.psu.edu/display/ipv6/···+Support

I was using an older version of Eudora, but since Eudora is no longer supported and will never be able to support IPv6, I chose to write my own email client program. One of the most widely used Email Client programs (Outhouse Excuse/Outlook Express) will not support IPv6 and is no longer supported by Microsoft.

I wouldn't call that a lot and it is mostly niche software with the exception of Outlook/Outlook Express, but users would be doing themselves a big favour to switch from OE to Thunderbird or some other sane e-mail client anyway. I wouldn't consider most of this stuff even if v6 was not in the picture. Besides if you're still running old crap like this you're probably still running XP and I wouldn't bother with v6 unless I was using an OS with better v6 support.


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said by 34764170:

Users would be doing themselves a big favour to switch from OE to Thunderbird or some other sane e-mail client anyway.

Like what?

said by 34764170:

I wouldn't consider most of this stuff even if v6 was not in the picture.

Please explain why.

said by 34764170:

Besides if you're still running old crap like this you're probably still running XP and I wouldn't bother with v6 unless I was using an OS with better v6 support.

Like what ( Mac OS, Unix/Linux, newer version of Windows than XP ) ?

How is newer versions of Windows XP better, in terms of IPv6 support?

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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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said by aefstoggaflm:

Like what?

Having an e-mail client that isn't a complete PoS and full of bugs. I migrated a handful of my friends / family members away from OE many years ago when they were running XP because it has a nasty bug with TLS or was it SASL making it unusable. Can't remember which as it was quite some time ago. They all loved TB much more so than OE and they had a non broken mail client; plus various features that were pretty useful.

said by aefstoggaflm:

Please explain why.

Especially with OE/Outlook and Eudora (are you kidding me..) its mostly old crap or is just plain crap and I wouldn't wish this stuff on my worst enemy.

said by aefstoggaflm:

Like what ( Mac OS, Unix/Linux, newer version of Windows than XP ) ?

How is newer versions of Windows XP better, in terms of IPv6 support?

XP doesn't support SMB / DNS over v6 and there are a few other aspects of its v6 support that are sub par compared to Vista/7. Similar issues with OS X 10.5 and older; there is also one or more nasty bugs with the resolver. I wouldn't consider unless using 10.6.8 or newer.