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jjoshua
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I wouldn't

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

Isn't it a problem when modifying the phone could impact phone service to the point where you can't make a call when you need to?

Phone service is regulated by the FCC so I can see why an operator who is running custom software would not want you to tinker with the device.

Network Guy
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One would want to root an Android phone to unlock features that carriers typically lock to charge customers extra for. Rooted phones let you install different ROM's that often run much better than stock and without the carrier-issued bloatware.

The advent of rooting is really what made AT&T and Verizon switch to bucket-o-byte pricing. Aside from exponential increase in network traffic, carriers cannot tell who's tethering or not. And God forbid the customer has the one up on them.

My older rooted and unlocked GSM phone lets me use SIMPLE Mobile's $50 all-you-can-eat plan as a wifi hotspot and as a USB modem. Yes, just $50 on the nose. Try doing that with big blue or big red.

kerya666

join:2002-12-20
Valrico, FL
reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

If you would try Linux you would find out really quickly why you need root .
Some more advanced applications will not even function without root access. It does not always have to affect phone service, there is much more to it than that.
I personally cannot even imagine running a phone without having root access now, thus why I been running Samsung phones lately thanks to their unlocked boot-loader and easy rooting.


jjoshua
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing on the Republic Moto Defy XT that I need to root the phone to get.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

Isn't it a problem when modifying the phone could impact phone service to the point where you can't make a call when you need to?

Phone service is regulated by the FCC so I can see why an operator who is running custom software would not want you to tinker with the device.

Most people root their phones to use functionality that their carrier has locked(for instance, thethering on the iphone is a native capability of the device, but carriers continue to block it unless you "pay" for the grace of using something you phone can do already). If you have ever purchased a phone from someone like net10 or straighttalk, you would understand that these phones are crippled on purpose so that people cannot fully use the services they pay for. I jailbroke my iphone to use it on ST wireless a long time ago, and have enjoyed tethering, along with unlimited data, minutes, and text, without ever having heard so much as a peep from them. The other side of the coin is that if you root your Republic Wireless phone, its likely they will not be able to throttle or track or monitor the phone itself. Remember CarrierIQ? yea, im guessing they use something like that to improve(track) the service of each customer. I don't blame people for getting rid of carrier bloatware on their phones.


jjoshua
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I already have unlimited talk, data, and text.

It seems like a nice phone and I have access to Google Play. What am I missing?


dcurrey
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reply to jjoshua
Most seem to want to root the phone for two reasons.

1. The phone has tones of bloatware like facebook google+ and bunch of Motorola apps that no one wants to use. They can't be moved to memory card or deleted. RW doesn't seem willing to remove them.

An OTA update is planned that removes facebook. Hell the installed google+ has some bug that doesn't allow pictures to upload to google+ or some damn thing. Once removed and new google+ app is downloaded its fixed.

2. Some apps require root access to function properly. Several root to just get Titanium backup installed.


C0deZer0
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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

Isn't it a problem when modifying the phone could impact phone service to the point where you can't make a call when you need to?

Phone service is regulated by the FCC so I can see why an operator who is running custom software would not want you to tinker with the device.

One big reason that I root my phone is to run Adfree Android. It's able to update your hosts file so that it can neutralize most ads not only when browsing pages, but also in-app ads, too. Considering that some apps can be responsible for up to 75% of the total power draw from a given app, that's very much worth the time.
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Chubbysumo

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reply to Network Guy
said by Network Guy:

Yes, just $50 on the nose. Try doing that with big blue or big red.

If your in an area with good CDMA(VZW) coverage, simple mobile is the way to go, and if your in an area with good Tmo/AT&T coverage, Straighttalk for $45 per month is the way to go.

Chubbysumo

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Superior, WI
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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

I already have unlimited talk, data, and text.

It seems like a nice phone and I have access to Google Play. What am I missing?

Most carrier phones are filled with bloatware, and are crippled so that you cannot use its full functionality.


newview
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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

The Motorola Defy XT557 Dual-Band that is currently the phone that Republic Wireless ships ... has 380MB of internal storage and a 4GB SD card.

The ridiculous amount of internal storage is compounded by the fact that the bloatware that ships with the phone CANNOT be moved to the SD card, and once you reach 40MB of space remaining, the phone will not allow any more apps to be be installed until you make space available.

So essentially you have 340MB of usable internal storage ... which the bloatware that ships with the phone easily gobbles about 150MB, reducing that available storage to 200MB or less.

Many people want to root the phone to delete the bloatware and move the apps from internal storage to the SD card, along with purchasing a more realistic 16-32GB SD card.

Kearnstd
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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

Isn't it a problem when modifying the phone could impact phone service to the point where you can't make a call when you need to?

Phone service is regulated by the FCC so I can see why an operator who is running custom software would not want you to tinker with the device.

Customer software is and never has been a threat to the network. it is still based on the Android kernel.

Those 4G wifi hotspots are also proof that software cannot threaten the network itself. as they are just a router with a 4G radio on the WAN port effectively.

The primary factor to locking a device is revenue protection and customer support. A feature in the carrier ROM might get moved in a custom ROM and as such a phone rep would send someone to the wrong place.

Though hopefully anybody who can unlock and install a ROM is capable of using Google.
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Crusty

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reply to jjoshua
said by jjoshua:

Why would someone need to root their phone? Is it not already "open" enough? I have one so help me understand why I might want to root my phone?

Isn't it a problem when modifying the phone could impact phone service to the point where you can't make a call when you need to?

Phone service is regulated by the FCC so I can see why an operator who is running custom software would not want you to tinker with the device.

Ummm...."open phones" from factory?? Hardly. Now android phones are much more useable (customizable) out of the box as compared to the iDevil but like others here have already mentioned, you need to root/jailbreak your phone to truly unlock what it can do. Much longer battery life, tweaked antennas, custom apps, tethering, hotspots, custom roms, font packs...and the list just goes on and on.

Try it. You'll never go back.


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Clinton Township, MI
reply to Network Guy
said by Network Guy:

One would want to root an Android phone to unlock features that carriers typically lock to charge customers extra for. Rooted phones let you install different ROM's that often run much better than stock and without the carrier-issued bloatware.

Example, not paying for what use to be PAM service (phone as modem) and "tethering it" to a laptop so you can surf the net at will. Or, making it a wifi hotspot, (another charge) allowing freeloaders to use your phone as a router or allowing kids access while driving down the highway so they can play games online.

It's akin to removing macro-vision from a movie so you can play it through certain devices or make a copy. In a nut shell, it's for avoiding payment for services that big cell likes to charge you for.


jjoshua
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I'll have to take a look and see if some of those services are actually blocked on my phone.