 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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Re: Building a computer...in need of help! said by Vampyfan25:Hmm, let me see how much more it is to up it
I already did it for you. Why ask for help if you just disregard everything and do what you think is best? I'm genuinely puzzled.
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kudos:2 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:I only intend on putting my OS on an SSD, nothing else.
That's why I'm telling you to at least go 128gb. I'm sitting at only 45gb of unused space on my 128gb SSD right now, and that's only an OS, AVG anti virus, EVGA Precision, and some game save files.
SSD performance degrades with the higher amount of data you store. That's why people recommend going with larger SSD's. |
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Im not disregarding everything. Im trying to juggle everything that i want. I dont need 240 GB on an SSD, i appreciate the help. |
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kudos:2 | reply to Krisnatharok
said by Krisnatharok:I'm busting against the limit for my 120 GB, my next build will have a 256 or 512 GB.
Yep...my next build down the road is getting a 512gb. I aint going anything less  |
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| This is also my first build, i can start small and upgrade it later if need be. I dont want to go all out on my first build honestly. I appreciate everything you guys recommend though. Im getting told many things by people on here, a few of my friends who have built their own computers, and my brother that has his masters in computer science and has built several computers. Im juggling all of my options and trying to build the best, but not too expensive, computer. |
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kudos:8 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:Im not disregarding everything. Im trying to juggle everything that i want. I dont need 240 GB on an SSD, i appreciate the help.
So what's your real budget? Obviously not $1700, because that budget accommodates everything I picked out quite well, including the peripherals.
How about you tell me what you don't like about my build, and I can swap out components or tell you the reasoning behind the choice.
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said by Vampyfan25:Well, im an amateur. I have a few people helping me out that have built their own computers, but i want to branch out as much as possible. I have a budget of around $1,700 (Maximum!). I want to build a gaming computer that can handle almost anything that i throw at it.
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| Which is why i chose a maximum of 1,700...not to go as close to it as possible. While i did say im an amateur, i know quite a few people who are not amateurs. Everybody has had their own experiences with different companies and products.
I like your build, but its too pricey honestly. Like ive stated several times, i appreciate everything you guys are doing for me. |
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 ironweaselWeezyPremium
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Belen, NM
kudos:1 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:This is also my first build, i can start small and upgrade it later if need be. I dont want to go all out on my first build honestly. I appreciate everything you guys recommend though. Im getting told many things by people on here, a few of my friends who have built their own computers, and my brother that has his masters in computer science and has built several computers. Im juggling all of my options and trying to build the best, but not too expensive, computer.
I'm going to leave some general recommendations here. I've been building computers for over 15 years and I'm A+ certified if that counts for anything. :lol:
Case: Unless you're going to drag it to LAN parties every weekend, you don't need acrylic side windows, LED fans, or any other "look at me" BS. Find a decent quality basic case that's big enough for what you intend to put in it. You can save money on the case and use it to upgrade other components.
Motherboard: Only one or two definite points. 1) Make sure it's compatible with your intended CPU & RAM. 2) Think about what you want to do in the future (SLI / Crossfire, more RAM, etc.) and buy accordingly. Everything else is personal preference.
CPU: Get the best you can afford within your intended usage. The i7, for example, spanks the i5 in multi-threaded applications where a lot of calculations are performed. Scientific simulations are a good example. The i7 doesn't much better than an i5 relative to the cost increase.
RAM: Think about what you want to do with it. High speed and low timing is always good regardless of what you do. For gaming, 8GB is about the norm. 16GB if you want to push it. 32GB+ if your board supports it and you have a legitimate need for it....like editing Titanic or something.
PSU: One of the most important components. Don't cheap out on this.....get the best one you can find in the appropriate wattage. 650w+ from a quality manufacturer.
SSD: 128GB at a minimum or 256GB+ if you want to be able to load and access more of your favorite apps with the speed a SSD provides.
HDD: 1TB minimum since everything you don't access on a frequent basis is going to go here.
Video card: Personal preference and predicted usage. Max eye candy at any cost - GTX 680 SLI. Most people usually settle for a mid-range product and the Radeon 7850 2GB or 7870 would be decent choices.
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:8 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:This is also my first build, i can start small and upgrade it later if need be. I dont want to go all out on my first build honestly. I appreciate everything you guys recommend though. Im getting told many things by people on here, a few of my friends who have built their own computers, and my brother that has his masters in computer science and has built several computers. Im juggling all of my options and trying to build the best, but not too expensive, computer.
A Masters in Computer Science does not make you a pro at building gaming PCs, sorry.
You've given us a lot of conflicting information, which is why we're a little frustrated at this point.
What's your *real* budget, and what are your *real* desired performance? A 7800 will not max everything.
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kudos:8 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:Which is why i chose a maximum of 1,700...not to go as close to it as possible.
That's what a maximum is. If you wanted a maximum of $1200, the build would look entirely different.
You choose how much you want to spend. You said $1700, I thought it was a pretty damn fine build for $1650, but you say that is too pricey. But you said $1700 to begin with.
Let's start over. Tell me what your budget is, and what games you want to max. I assume your TV (which is a bad idea for gaming) is 1920x1080?
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Yes, my tv is 1920x1080. Ive been using it on my current computer without any flaws, i just dont want to spend more on a monitor is all.
The games that i want to max:
Sim city (Comes out in March)
Mass Effect 3
Ive been playing Dead Island on my xbox, tried it on my PC, but my current PC isnt strong enough.
Honestly, at this point, i would like to stick around $1,400...sorry about all of the confusion |
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kudos:8 | Do you want any peripherals (keyboard/headset/mouse) in the price? |
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ironweaselWeezyPremium
join:2000-09-13
Belen, NM
kudos:1 | reply to Vampyfan25
All excellent choices....if you actually buy them and aren't just posting them up to get us to shut up.
We're not trying to be dicks - we want you to be happy with your purchases. $1300 is a lot of money to spend on junk you aren't going to be happy with. Budget dictates performance and as your budget goes up so does performance but finding the proverbial "sweet spot" within your particular budget is always the goal. You want to maximize performance while maintaining the budget.
Some areas like the case & optical drive are prime spots to save money and to some extent the motherboard can be downsized if the budget dictates. If you're wanting to game on this machine then the most important components are the CPU, video card, and PSU with the RAM, motherboard, and internal storage (SSD / HDD) taking slightly less precedence but still being important in their own right. If you were doing 3D models or editing huge video files then the order of importance would change slightly.
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| I understand! This is just all new to me...a lot of information is getting thrown at me at once...its just a little overwhelming for me is all. |
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My choices are also uneducated...what you guys are posting make a lot more sense, plus its only up to $100 more to make a lot of dramatic tweaks that will help my computer's performance |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:8 | reply to Vampyfan25
If you take the peripherals out of my build, it comes to $1443. If you drop the GPU from the Nvidia GTX 670 down to a Radeon 7870, you will be under budget (actually ~$1310).
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ironweaselWeezyPremium
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said by Vampyfan25:I understand! This is just all new to me...a lot of information is getting thrown at me at once...its just a little overwhelming for me is all.
Kris is a good guy....comes off a little brash sometimes but always gives excellent recommendations based on what you tell him you want. 
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