 Gordo74Premium
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Re: Building a computer...in need of help! said by Krisnatharok:If you take the peripherals out of my build, it comes to $1443. If you drop the GPU from the Nvidia GTX 670 down to a Radeon 7870, you will be under budget (actually ~$1310).
This. Do this. Pair what Kris had with a 7870 and you'll be set for years to come. |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2009-02-11
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kudos:7 | reply to Vampyfan25
No problem, sorry for giving you a hard time earlier!
If this is your first time building a PC, I recommend you pick up the following to keep around permanently:
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Arctic Silver 5 Thermal paste - »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···35100008
This should give you all the tools you need to put your computer together.
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| Thanks! I will add those in too |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | Bump the ram up to 1600 ram, don't use 1333 ram, that's for slower CPUs. |
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I wouldn't buy it. |
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Thanks, i will switch out the RAM. Other than that, is everything compatible (will everything fit into the motherboard)? Would you recommend more fans, bluethooth, anything. Im on the verge of purchasing |
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Why wouldnt you? |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | reply to Vampyfan25
said by Vampyfan25:Thanks, i will switch out the RAM. Other than that, is everything compatible (will everything fit into the motherboard)? Would you recommend more fans, bluethooth, anything. Im on the verge of purchasing
You can add up to 2x 120mm fans on the side door of the computer.
As the case is set up, you would actually have negative air pressure (140mm in, 140mm + 120mm out), and you want positive air pressure inside the case for the best cooling.
So I'd pick up two 120mm case fans for the side door and just plug them into the motherboard fan headers if need-be.
Any fan can do, but I prefer Yate Loons (available over at FrozenCPU). These caught my eye as well, but I don't deal a lot with fans, so someone more informed might be able to point out the definitively best case fans for you.
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| Thanks, i will add on a few fans and call it a day |
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| did you order the stuff already? |
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| Nope, i havent ordered anything yet |
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | reply to FizzyMyNizzy
If you're going to pop in here and offer one-liners, you ought to offer your reasoning or alternative as well.
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demirPremium
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2 edits | reply to Vampyfan25
A 650 watt power supply seems like overkill for a 7850 --- I would recommend a 500 watt ---
»www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/am···w,6.html
Personally, I would opt for a regular dvd drive and no SSD and switch out that 7850 for a gtx 670 . . .
Kris will point out that the SSD speeds up the general system performance, but I'll point out that an SSD doesn't give you framerates in games. Personally, I'd rather have uber fps in a game than a faster loading time for windows and applications.
If I have the money -- I would definately get the SSD though --- if you are making a decision constrained by money, --- dump the SSD first IMO.
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
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kudos:7 | With his budget, an SSD should be in his build. SSDs also drastically speed up loading times--depending on the game you play, this could have a large impact on your gaming experience.
Good catch on the 7850, I thought he had picked a 7870.
The PSU was leftover from my selecting a 670/680. He could downsize, but that might preclude a later upgrade or dual GPUs.
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join:2009-01-07
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kudos:2 | reply to demir
said by demir:A 650 watt power supply seems like overkill for a 7850 --- I would recommend a 500 watt --- Why? A 650w PSU uses no more power then a 500w. Down the road when the OP wants to SLI, then he's got the power available to do so. You could put a 1000w PSU into a computer, and if hardware you're using only consumes, 200w of power, then that's all that'll be consumed.
said by demir:Personally, I would opt for a regular dvd drive and no SSD and switch out that 7850 for a gtx 670 . . .
Kris will point out that the SSD speeds up the general system performance, but I'll point out that an SSD doesn't give you framerates in games. Personally, I'd rather have uber fps in a game than a faster loading time for windows and applications.
If I have the money -- I would definately get the SSD though --- if you are making a decision constrained by money, --- dump the SSD first IMO.
Depends on what you want.
First you say you wouldn't get an SSD, then you say you would definitely get the SSD? I'm not following you.
An SSD is one of the biggest performance boosting pieces of hardware you can install in a PC build. Does it give you more frames in games? Of course not. But why would you build a mediocre gaming PC, which most gaming enthusiasts don't solely game on their machines, just so you can slap a nicer GPU in the system?
Is there a reason why the OP couldn't crossfire 2 7850's down the road?
Installing an SSD on a brand new build is a whole lot easier then doing it after the fact. |
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demirPremium
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1 edit | 1) There's a cost difference in higher wattage power supplies.
2) If you have to make a financial decision between getting an SSD and getting a top end graphics card, I subjectively prefer the faster graphics in-game to greater overall system performance and slower in-game graphics. The OP's opinion on that may vary --- I'm just giving my opinion --- as sometimes people don't think about it until you give them a choice.
I do most of my non-gaming on my tablets --- office software, etc so the desktop is for nothing but gaming.
The OP could CF / SLI down the road, but in my opinion most people that don't do that from the get go --- don't end up doing so.
I agree on your last point, but my argument against the SSD isn't based on ease of installation --- it's based on money --- plain and simple. |
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GhastlyonePremium
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kudos:2 | said by demir:1) There's a cost difference in higher wattage power supplies.
You said nothing about price, you were strictly talking about the wattage being overkill....
said by demir:A 650 watt power supply seems like overkill for a 7850 --- I would recommend a 500 watt ---
Regarding SSD's. I see no reason not to install an SSD in a current day, new PC build. Prices on these things are getting super cheap compared to a couple years ago. If your desire is to build a bomb ass gaming PC and you're barely skrimping money together where you have to eliminate hardware such as an SSD, then you might want to rethink your financial situation.
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there is a combo for that mainboard + windows 7 pro 64bit oem, that tower is not that good.. it only has USB 2.0. There is a case I think from rosewell(how ever you spell it.) That has 2 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2.0, and a SATA dock bay and a PSU combo. The SSD you should change it to G.SKILL Phoenix III 240GB for the same price. Change the video card to GTX 670 are something. I'm not sure do you want to do water cooling. There is a i5-3570k + H80 water cooling combo. Up to you on the wireless N, the newest one is wireless AC 1750 i think it was, the lower model is AC 1200 are something. But it is faster than Wireless N. But then you have to get a new router or what ever you are using. If I remember right.. there is a Blue G.Skill Ram 1866 2x8GB for like $69.99....or was it 79.99..
any way, back to borderlands 2.
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demirPremium
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1) quote:
I agree on your last point, but my argument against the SSD isn't based on ease of installation --- it's based on money --- plain and simple.
emphasis mine
2) While I don't doubt they are great additions to ANY computer they are not needed.
Given the same amount of money for a build --- going without an SSD and upgrading your video will result in a system with better framerates and quality in games --- every time.
Damn, you have to pay for these things? You're kidding right?  |
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