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EGeezer
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P0124 diag code - replaced thermostat?

A relative took her 2001 ford Crown vic to a shop for a CEL problem. Everything worked, including the heater. The only symptom was the light.

The $384 bill from the shop showed symptom P0124 and replace thermostat, O-Ring, coolant, change oil was $30, a $10.00 disposal fee was also itemized.

How does a thermostat cause the ECM to throw a throttle position sensor code?
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dandeman
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Re: P0124 diag code - replaced teromstat?

Sure it was PO124 versus PO125?


ropeguru
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Agreed. P0125 is low coolant temp indication which leads one to believe that the thermostat was stuck open.


EGeezer
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said by ropeguru:

Agreed. P0125 is low coolant temp indication which leads one to believe that the thermostat was stuck open.

The bill said P0124, but given your observation, it was probably a typo.

She also said they told her it cost $167 to read the code and reset the light.

I still think $344 is pretty steep for replacing a thermostat and coolant. My guy (ASE certified, full service shop) said he'd have done the work for about $120, Motorcraft thermostat & gasket included, including testing the cooling system for leaks. His oil/filter change would have been $22.
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mattmag
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Even in my years at a dealership we never charged that much for a basic diagnostic service. That amount is way out of line. Also the oil change unless she specifically requested that to be done.


Bruschi
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said by mattmag:

Even in my years at a dealership we never charged that much for a basic diagnostic service. That amount is way out of line. Also the oil change unless she specifically requested that to be done.

I agree that is way out of line. Not even would my Audi dealer be that high.
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EGeezer
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I don't recall if she asked for the oil change to be done or not.

This happened to be a Ford dealership. She says she goes there because the people there are really nice to her.

I can see why ...
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Cody
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FYI - for future issues you may want to bring it to an autozone/o'reilly/similar. They typically read the code for free. That's what I used to do before we had access to a code reader.
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CylonRed
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With a code I can go to a BMW forum and and the vast majority of the time I can get 2-3 ideas on how to test for an issue - just from a code. If that code can be gotten for free - it is hardly not worth anything.
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EGeezer
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said by Cho Baka:

Reading a code for free is often not worth what you pay for it.

I agree, the systems like my tech uses is more sophisticated and vehicle specific then the ones at the parts stores. But in this particular case, I question what the added value was, particularly at $167.00.
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Cho Baka
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I would also question.

It all comes back to a pet peeve of mine.

There needs to be more communication, and hopefully (earned) trust between the tech/shop and customer.
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EGeezer
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said by Cho Baka:

I would also question.

It all comes back to a pet peeve of mine.

There needs to be more communication, and hopefully (earned) trust between the tech/shop and customer.

I agree. In this case, an eighty-something lady who knows nothing about cars and depends on a shop's communications, discretion and integrity deserved a bit more than what she got.
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