 La LunaSurvived AshrafulPremium join:2001-07-12 Warwick, NY kudos:3 | reply to silentlooker
Re: IE Zero-Day said by silentlooker:said by Dustyn:said by Dustin Childs :We are actively investigating reports of a small, targeted issue affecting Internet Explorer 6-8, Childs said in an emailed statement. Who the hell cares if IE6 is vulnerable? Microsoft has to stop patching IE6 or people will continue to use it. » www.ie6countdown.com/ I still use ie 5 and extremely happy lucky. Fixed. -- The Alien in the White House
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 | Well if you're "lucky" you're probably "happy" too 
Probably not many bad guys targeting IE5 any more. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 DustynPremium join:2003-02-26 Ontario, CAN kudos:10 | reply to silentlooker said by silentlooker : I still use ie 5 and extremely happy. Awesome. The advisery does not discuss IE5. |
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 EGeezerGo CatsPremium join:2002-08-04 Midwest kudos:8 | reply to StuartMW What's this "Internet Explorer" people are speaking of? |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:2 Reviews:
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| said by EGeezer:What's this "Internet Explorer" people are speaking of? It's that other browser you use to download Firefox or Google Chrome with.  |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 1 edit | reply to EGeezer You might know it as Internet Exploder 
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 | reply to trparky said by trparky:said by EGeezer:What's this "Internet Explorer" people are speaking of? It's that other browser you use to download Firefox or Google Chrome with. LMAO, My side hurts |
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 JuggernautIrreverent or irrelevant?Premium join:2006-09-05 Kelowna, BC kudos:2 | reply to redwolfe_98 The only thing I use IE for is DL'ing Win updates.  |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 | +1 |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 Reviews:
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1 edit | reply to trparky said by trparky:Not to sound like an idiot, but wouldn't referencing an object after it's been removed or freed up (made null) cause a Null Reference Exception? I haven't looked into it in any detail but apparently there's some rather clever techniques that can be used to access deallocated memory. Take a look at the EMET manual as it has basic explanations of some common tricks. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 siljalineI'm lovin' that double widePremium join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC kudos:17 Reviews:
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| reply to trparky I'm not big on code, trparky When I was an IE MVP, I could have asked the IE Team at MS. I no longer have that option accessible to me.
What we have in this thread is the latest information.
I suspect we will know more in the forthcoming days if MS will issue an out-of-band patch or perhaps a FixIt. |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Oh shit, I think I know how this exploit may work.
There's an attack technique which is used to overwrite the Structured Exception Handler which would, in any other case, catch the Null Reference Exception and handle it cleanly so that the program would not appear to crash.
But in the case of this exploit, it would overwrite the Structured Exception Handler using either a Stack-based Buffer Overflow or Heap Spray attack. Then, something would be used to trigger (a call to a null Object, in this case) the Exception Handler and since it's been overwritten with arbitrary code, the program would then be vulnerable to attack.
All of which EMET helps guard a program against. -- Tom Boycott AT&T uVerse! | Tom's Android Blog | AOKP (The Android Open Kang Project) |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:2 Reviews:
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| There's something called Structured Exception Handling Overwrite Protection or SEHOP. It does this by preventing attackers from being able to use the SEH overwrite technique by verifying that the threads exception handler list is intact before allowing any of the registered exception handlers to be called or executed. This mitigation technique is made possible by a side-effect of overwriting the SEH. The side-effect is that the pointer in the programs memory stack is corrupted in the process of overwriting the SEH, thus the integrity of the exception handling chain is broken.
An Exception Handler is anything that may include the use of TRY, CATCH, and FINALLY.
I did a presentation on various exploit techniques for my end of class project for my CompTIA Security+ prep class. I covered the use of EMET extensively so I had to actually do some research into how many of these attacks work on a basic level. -- Tom Boycott AT&T uVerse! | Tom's Android Blog | AOKP (The Android Open Kang Project) |
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 trparkyApple... YUMPremium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH kudos:2 Reviews:
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| Many of Microsoft's newer programs have these exploit protections baked into the compiled code of the program. But, this only happens with programs that have been compiled with recent versions of the Microsoft Visual C++ Compiler.
My guess is that Internet Explorer 9 and 10, which aren't vulnerable, have been compiled with Visual C++ 2010 or newer and the older versions are still being compiled with pre-2010 C++ compiler thus not having the protections baked into the compiled code. -- Tom Boycott AT&T uVerse! | Tom's Android Blog | AOKP (The Android Open Kang Project) |
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| reply to trparky said by trparky:But in the case of this exploit, it would overwrite the Structured Exception Handler using either a Stack-based Buffer Overflow or Heap Spray attack.
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All of which EMET helps guard a program against.
That is my understanding as well. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 siljalineI'm lovin' that double widePremium join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC kudos:17 | reply to redwolfe_98 MS FixIt available at this MS KB. »support.microsoft.com/kb/2794220 |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 1 edit | Got it--thanks.
Of course it won't fix IE6 on a Win2K system Did IE8 on WinXP SP3 fine though. |
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 | reply to redwolfe_98 Microsoft Security Advisory (2794220) Vulnerability in Internet Explorer Could Allow Remote Code Execution | Updated: Monday, December 31, 2012
Microsoft Fix it solution, "MSHTML Shim Workaround", that prevents exploitation of this issue
See Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 2794220 to use the automated Microsoft Fix it solution to enable or disable this workaround.
Here it is : Fix it for me - FixIt Solution |
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 siljalineI'm lovin' that double widePremium join:2002-10-12 Montreal, QC kudos:17 Reviews:
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1 edit | reply to StuartMW You're welcome. From: »blogs.technet.com/b/srd/archive/···ers.aspx Update December 31: Fix It tool is available. »support.microsoft.com/kb/2794220 |
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 Smokey Bearveritas odium paritPremium join:2008-03-15 Annie's Pub kudos:4 | reply to redwolfe_98 Fix it here, fix it there, fix it everywhere  |
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