 dennismurphyPut me on hold? I'll put YOU on holdPremium
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Re: Fuck Dell $130 to copy data off, reformat, reload Wintendo, update all the drivers etc, patches, etc and all that frustration? That's a bargain if I've ever heard one!
No way would I do it for that little ... I'd have to charge at least 4x that just for my frustration factor!
Glad there are honest folks like you out there - no way could I deal with all that stress for $130.
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 veloslaveGeek For GodPremium
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Pleasant Hill, CA | reply to takeahike
Re: F**k Dell Just had an Inspiron the other day... wanted to pull the HD to Ghost a backup before reimaging. @(*#*&^&$%#$$#@!&)*(&%^$
No need to excuse your language... Dell, whom I like in the business world with their Latitudes have really told the consumer to go f themselves. This Laptop requires complete and total motherboard removal just to get at the mobo. That is just plain wrong.
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kudos:1 | said by veloslave:This Laptop requires complete and total motherboard removal just to get at the mobo. That is just plain wrong.
why?
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 takeahikePremium
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Woodland Hills, CA | reply to dennismurphy
Re: Fuck Dell Thanks! There are opinions on the other side. |
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Re: F**k Dell I have an older Inspiron, can't complain side slot HD mounted nd pull and change, have had to do it twice, 1st time due to failer (3 days before waranty expired!) and 2nd time wanted a bigger HD in it.
No fuss no muss.
and I charge about the same rates you do for HD replacement/rebuild since I don't try to make people believe I'm working for 4 hours on it (I might be clicking for 5 minutes) but the PC does the work itself. |
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veloslaveGeek For GodPremium
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Pleasant Hill, CA | reply to AVD
said by AVD:said by veloslave:This Laptop requires complete and total motherboard removal just to get at the mobo. That is just plain wrong.
why? That is what the thread is wondering and complaining about
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AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium
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kudos:1 | said by veloslave:said by AVD:said by veloslave:This Laptop requires complete and total motherboard removal just to get at the mobo. That is just plain wrong.
why? That is what the thread is wondering and complaining about What computer does not need a motherboard removal to get to the mobo?
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mikefxu
join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL | reply to takeahike
Technology has become so disposable there is no concern for repairability. You have to adapt to change. I don't enjoy working on iDevices and Ultrabooks, but they are here to stay and will probably get increasingly difficult to repair.
The requirement to remove the motherboard to replace the hard drive on my wife's Dell 14R has discouraged me from replacing it with a SSD, even though I have one on hand for it. She only uses it once a week versus her smart phone. |
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Re: Fuck Dell said by Oedipus:You've gone through two keyboards and four touchpads/mouse buttons in the last three years? That doesn't sound out of the ordinary to you?
Going back to the whole "Latitudes/Precisions are better" theme, I am on my E6410 for 8-12 hours a day, every day, and have been doing so since I got it back in early 2010. I have replaced absolutely nothing.
I thought the same thing. I used to have the Inspiron 1525 I got from Dell Outlet in 2009 but it developed a problem with charging. There is an issue with these, and I suspect it may be the DC port which I have no desire to mess with ATM. I decided to get a Latitude (as I did hear it was of better quality being they are for businesses) and got a D830 last spring. It is a bit on the heavier side, but she's doing fine, and it came with a bluetooth.
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 J E F FWhatta Ya Think About Dat?Premium
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said by BronsCon:said by ilikeme:said by Max_War:They are just following Apple's exterior case designs. Unlike Apple, at least you can open a PC laptop to do repairs.
I take it you have never actually opened a mac. Don't knock it until you actually have. I have, and they are quite easy to access everything (HDD, RAM, Disc Drive, ETC.) Easier than many PC laptops. Replace the RAM in a Retina MBP, then come talk to me. Before those hit the market, I used to agree with you; if you actually still feel that way, you're a bit behind the times. The pre 2012 MacBooks were pretty easy. The pre 2010 MacBooks you could do blindfolded. Though it's true the new ones are not easy, and in many cases, not possible.
My last Windows machine, the hard drive was located underneath the keyboard, although the keyboard was pretty easy to remove. (about 5 minutes worth of work)
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| Pretty much what I meant by "I used to agree with you". 
For the record, I work in a mixed environment and have cracked open just about anything you can imagine at one point or another. I'm considering dropping a couple grand an a retina MPB and trying to upgrade the RAM just for kicks -- the hard part is convincing my wife... |
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| LOL..think you can change the ram in these new units? IIRC, only the SDD is serviceable, though I could be wrong.
Lots of discussion on whether Apple is making the right move by making it hard/impossible to make hardware changes.
Although Apple isn't the only company doing this, I believe some of the Dell's and Acers have laptops with no serviceable parts.
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| Actually, while the SSD isn't soldered in like the RAM, it's a nonstandard form factor, so while you can replace it, you'll have trouble sourcing the part.
I wasn't joking when I said the hard part of getting my hands on an RMBP to try and upgrade the RAM in it would be convincing my wife; she's not too fond of me buying multi-thousand-dollar gadgets just to break them.
UPDATE: She just said if I buy one, it's hers; I told her that's fine as long as she lets me upgrade the RAM first. Looks like I'll be enjoying some laptop surgery this weekend and she'll be enjoying her really expensive paperweight. |
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Plainfield, IN | Considering the ram is soldered onto the logicboard on the retina macbook pro why would you consider upgrading it? How will you accomplish this? |
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| said by rugby:Considering the ram is soldered onto the logicboard on the retina macbook pro why would you consider upgrading it? How will you accomplish this?
Considering that I mention the soldered RAM at the beginning of my post and refer to the laptop as a paperweight at the end, what do you think? It's one of those "try it for the hell of it" things. |
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takeahikePremium
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Woodland Hills, CA
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Re: F**k Dell So I'm sitting here in my shop on Saturday. Thinking about the business after having two people came in with systems that had problems at home but no problems upon their arrival here--no way to earn money. (By the way, I've already been accused of being in the wrong forum, but I'll continue anyway). Anyway, it seems that as time goes on there will be less and less serviceable parts to whatever in the future they decide to call a computer. So repairs will diminish and of course straight sales of systems is a non-starter (unless you want to give them away). Of course to the extent hard drives are a serviceable item that will virtually end when SSD becomes the standard since we all know that the failure rate on memory is way lower than on conventional hard drives. I suppose that there will always be software problems and viruses but otherwise the future doesn't look that promising.
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| So wait, you mean to tell me that you have to adapt in order to survive in the IT field? Say it aint so! |
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takeahikePremium
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1 edit | Not really in IT corporate, per se, but consumer sales and service. If you read my comments carefully, you'd see I'm talking about the future of the my type of business, not my place in it. So, if you mean adapting to living without income, I suppose so.
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mikefxu
join:2004-10-05
Titusville, FL
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Just remember the automotive mechanic where they shove motor in places they barely fit and almost all function/controls are now computer/electronic based, they have it harder than us. One day all electronic will be filled with a thermal glue/epoxy that makes is impossible for repair. I am think 2014 or 2015 this will happen. |
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AsherN
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Thornhill, ON | Talking with my mechanic Saturday. Apprently, the new BMWs don't have a dipstick. Want to check your oil? plug it in the diagnostics computer.
Consumer computers are disposable items. They are designed to not be serviceable by your average consumer. Not being able to easily upgrade the HDD is a good thing for the repair business. |
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