 davidgGood Bye My FriendPremium,MVM
join:2002-06-15
none | reply to redholm
Re: Why is neutral conncted to ground in the fuse box/panel? not to be an ass, but if you don't know this then you don't need to open the panel except to change a fuse/reset a breaker until you learn more.
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
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·Callcentric
| said by davidg:not to be an ass, but if you don't know this then you don't need to open the panel except to change a fuse/reset a breaker until you learn more.
And, asking the question here is how he can learn more, right? |
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 mattmagPremium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
kudos:3 | said by garys_2k:said by davidg:not to be an ass, but if you don't know this then you don't need to open the panel except to change a fuse/reset a breaker until you learn more.
And, asking the question here is how he can learn more, right? +1
That response is wearing thin. I'd rather someone post and ask a question rather than do something wrong. |
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redholm
join:2004-10-31
Sunnyvale, CA | reply to davidg
I appreciate the concern, no plans to do/change anything. |
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davidgGood Bye My FriendPremium,MVM
join:2002-06-15
none | reply to garys_2k
sorry, but asking questions on a forum is not the PROPER way to learn about electrical. you will get such wide response(most of them completely wrong) that it will only serve to confuse and endanger someone. If he really wants to learn, and i hope he does, then the better method is to get someone that knows to teach him. there are also some basic electrical books available fairly cheap that will give someone the very basic understanding they need to do minor home electrical work.
i never said NOT to ask, just to not do anything in the panel until he learned more. a live panel is not the place for someone that has no basic knowledge, you can and will get hurt quickly.
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to davidg
said by davidg:not to be an ass, but if you don't know this then you don't need to open the panel except to change a fuse/reset a breaker until you learn more.
+1 Good advice. These people have no business ever taking the cover off a panel period. |
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garys_2kPremium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI Reviews:
·callwithus
·Callcentric
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said by davidg:sorry, but asking questions on a forum is not the PROPER way to learn about electrical. you will get such wide response(most of them completely wrong) that it will only serve to confuse and endanger someone. If he really wants to learn, and i hope he does, then the better method is to get someone that knows to teach him. there are also some basic electrical books available fairly cheap that will give someone the very basic understanding they need to do minor home electrical work.
i never said NOT to ask, just to not do anything in the panel until he learned more. a live panel is not the place for someone that has no basic knowledge, you can and will get hurt quickly.
And you said all that to him, about getting books, looking for codes, or did you just blow him off with a smart remark?
Besides, there are some extremely knowledgeable sparkys that post here regularly. The OP asked a fair question. Your answer was not helpful. |
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Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | reply to davidg
+1 again
I guess that those of us wasted our time studying and getting our license? All we need to do is to come to a Home Improvement forum and ask about anything we need to know.
To think I could have avoided 2 years of M - F, 8 hour classes and 5 years of 3 and 4 nights per week of classes. 
There are people on here that have no business opening up a panel yet are encouraged by some to perform functions that these folks should not be attempting. What's even worse is some of the posters giving this advice clearly don't know themselves. |
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 alkizmo
join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1 | reply to davidg
And this is why Detective David Mills should I never opened the box. |
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redholm
join:2004-10-31
Sunnyvale, CA Reviews:
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I personally do think the ‘You are in over your head’ posts are useful. Electricity is dangerous and it is important to follow code so the next electrician does not get a nasty surprise. I have been lurking in this forum and one of the reasons I read it is just because there are professional that take their time to explain things. Jack_in_VA you are on my list of pros that I read extra carefully.
I am a curious person and have lived in many places in the world. Some of them did not have a neutral to ground connection in the main panel. Maybe they had a connection upstream at the pole. The last place I saw no neutral ground connection had a whole house GFI. One lab I visited had two grounds, regular ground that was connected to neutral and reference ground that was not.
Sorry if not providing any context in the first post.
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | reply to redholm
Re: Why is neutral conncted to ground in the fuse box/panel? said by redholm:I am a curious person and have lived in many places in the world. Some of them did not have a neutral to ground connection in the main panel. Maybe they had a connection upstream at the pole. The last place I saw no neutral ground connection had a whole house GFI. One lab I visited had two grounds, regular ground that was connected to neutral and reference ground that was not.
It would be a mistake to think that all power distribution systems around the world are the same as the system used in the United States. As you list your location as Sunnyvale, CA; I based my response to your question on the system used in the US. That by no means should imply that all electrical systems have the neutral and ground bonded as is required with our system. |
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 ropeguruPremium
join:2001-01-25
Mechanicsville, VA | reply to davidg
Re: Why is neutral conncted to ground in the fuse box/panel? said by davidg:sorry, but asking questions on a forum is not the PROPER way to learn about electrical. you will get such wide response(most of them completely wrong) that it will only serve to confuse and endanger someone. If he really wants to learn, and i hope he does, then the better method is to get someone that knows to teach him. there are also some basic electrical books available fairly cheap that will give someone the very basic understanding they need to do minor home electrical work.
i never said NOT to ask, just to not do anything in the panel until he learned more. a live panel is not the place for someone that has no basic knowledge, you can and will get hurt quickly.
Then maybe we should just close this forum with comments and beliefs like this. |
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