http://www.dslreports.com/forum/speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-direct-27865319 en Wed, 22 May 2013 23:47:42 EDT Wed, 22 May 2013 23:47:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28005461 I'm there!

8:14 PM 2/12/2013
Downstream Speed: 1184 Kbps
Upstream Speed: 448 Kbps
SNR Downstream : 24 dB
SNR Upstream : 25 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 34 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 20 dB

Thank you , Thank you :) :)
...and my Border Collie's tail is a wagg'n]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28005461 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:18:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28004442 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28004442 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:48:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28003334 VZ partial test from 2012 (have more if helpful)

[04/24/12 17:26:34] ===>\; ADSL Loop Data
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Downstream Upstream
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Relative Capacity 20 23
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Noise Margin 21 31
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Transmit Signal Power 5 12
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Attenuation 35 18
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Interleaved Bit Rate 864 160 (in use)
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Intr Max Attainable BR 5184 960 (in use)
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Fast Channel Bit Rate 0 0 (not in use)
[04/24/12 17:26:34] Fast Max Attainable BR 5184 960 (not in use)

What else do you need from me?
MUCH thanks in advance :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-28003334 Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:47:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27998336 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27998336 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:50:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27998160 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27998160 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:48:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27997268 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27997268 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:20:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27996840
Downstream Rate:
864Kbps
Upstream Rate:
160Kbps

SNR Downstream : 34 dB
SNR Upstream : 31 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 35 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 20 dB
Power Downstream 14.2 dBm
Power Upstream 11 dBm

We'll see how long this lasts...
Tnx for all the help out there!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27996840 Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:47:05 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27945218
with those stats, if you wanted to, you could upgrade to 3Mbps.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27945218 Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:04:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27944597 Got home for 'lunch' today and decided to try your recommendation of changing the WAN IP settings to opendns which I have done a while back with the Westell 6100. Long story short...I couldn't do it with the GT784WNV. Followed your above instructions but the radio buttons weren't active to do it so no-go. Back to work and when I got home, expected to see the gateway just like I explained...connected but unable to bring down a connection to a webpage or check email. Well not this time as it brought up a page the minute I clicked on it!!! :)
Here's the stats for the first time:

SNR Downstream : 34 dB
SNR Upstream : 31 dB
Attenuation Downstream : 34 dB
Attenuation Upstream : 20 dB
Power Downstream 16.4 dBm
Power Upstream 11.3 dBm

VPI: 0
VCI: 35
Broadband Mode Setting: ADSL
Broadband Negotiated Mode: G.DMT
Connection Status: CONNECTED
Downstream Speed: 864 Kbps
Upstream Speed: 160 Kbs

I know I could handle my old 1184/448 speeds somehow if that switch was flipped by someone...numbers above sure prove my line could take it.

Good post...it was useful to me!
Tnx ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27944597 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:33:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27942151 ... well i was going to add in a thing about checking the always on connection setting, but this gateway doesn't appear to have that -.-

what i would suggest at this point is re-doing the setup for the modem, because that's all i can think of at this point. make sure modem is set to handle any and all dsl stuff, and use dynamic routing in your lan network, and let your gateway handle that as well. that's how i have mine set up, and it works.

i also recommend setting opendns by going to advanced setup, then selecting"WAN IP Settings", and entering the opendns ip's under setting 4. | 208.67.222.222 | 208.67.220.220 |

also, if you want to, post up current transceiver statistics, which can be found under status, and clicking "WAN Status".

i apologize if this post is not all too useful.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27942151 Thu, 24 Jan 2013 07:05:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27941708 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27941708 Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:11:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27937590 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27937590 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 20:10:11 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27935501 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27935501 Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:27:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27933840
there is always the possibility of being hooked into a congested dslam, but congestion doesn't usually affect actual sync speeds.

also of note, the gt784wnv is a great unit, i just got one for a second line i set up in my house to get everyone else off a single 3Mbps line, and i must say, it's the best i've ever seen the stats for that line at.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27933840 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 19:01:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27932149 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27932149 Mon, 21 Jan 2013 10:35:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871906
what i would check right off the bat: try different phone cable between jack and modem. failing that, replace the wall jack. if no major improvement, test out at the nid (the box where all the phone wires go to) and see if there's any improvement in margin stability. if there isn't, then you need to get verizon to fix their wiring.

if you need to call verizon to fix stuff, and are tired of the subhumans, call 1-866-376-3216 (enter 0 for extension if it asks).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871906 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 18:55:29 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871558 first day of 2013 modem info:

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 864 160
Margin (dB) 4.0 31.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.3 18.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.8 11.9
I've seen Margin as high as 28db. Video works great with no buffering at all even at 864kb.

Have no phone to plug into jack and if I do disconnect phone jack, I'll probably loose my connection and have to call up VZ India to have them reset it. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871558 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:56:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871333 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27871333 Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:09:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27867241 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27867241 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:54:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27867179
Is there a phone on the circuit?
No, just dry-loop dsl and has been that way for almost a year.
My own devices causing the problem?
Will not rule that out..westell modem #6100 worked for more than 3 years and did just great for the 6 month period where I received 1184/448 solid. VZ man checked the NID, inside wiring checked, down the street box was inspected and I did get re-routed to ?? and this is how I believe I was able to get 1mb down speed. Or maybe they hooked me into some different component at the CO...doo noo. After several reboots of the modem just after reading your posts, I got the following:

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 864 160
Margin (dB) 2.5 31.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.3 18.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 17.8 11.9

NEVER seen the Margin this low! Almost bet it's somewhere between my NID and the CO. Have not had ANY disconnect-reconnect issues.

Think I'll just be happy with 864kb's and hope Margin goes back around 25-30db. Still enjoyed 6 months and then the 10 days of 1184/448kbs...man, that was FAST.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27867179 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:15:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27866636 while it is normal for margin and speed to change a little to go from 1184 kbps with 18dB margin to only 32kbps with 9dB indicates a severe problem. Margin should increase in response to reducing bit rate. In your case data rate had to be reduced all the way to 32kbps to squeak by with only 9dB margin.

Is there a phone on this circuit? If so how is voice quality, any noise especially when phone is first picked up? What about crosstalk, other voices? If quality is not up to snuff call voice repair to have the line checked.

May want to double check problem is not being caused by your own devices or inside wiring. Try temporarily plugging modem into phone company NID test jack to see if problem goes away. If so something within your residence either wiring or equipment is degrading DSL.

Good Luck.

/tom ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27866636 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:55:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27866352 to confirm this, whenever it drops back down to 32kbps, check the noise margin to see if it's at ~6-7 or so; if it is, then something on the line is creating noise issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-dir-27866352 Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:57:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-direct-27865319 2:17 PM 11/6/2012
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 32 160
Margin (dB) 17.0 24.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 31.3 21.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 12.0 11.9

5:07 PM 11/26/2012
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 32 160
Margin (dB) 20.2 14.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 29.6 19.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 12.0 11.9

What I can't figure out is my Margin and Line Att are not THAT bad. There not real good but don't expect them to be at the line distance I'm from the CO. The Westell 6100 modem I've had; well can't see it being the problem because between May and October it held up with 1184/448 speeds and gave me NO problems...didn't even have to re-boot the modem to re-connect because of speed/connection issues! Solid and consistent up/down speeds.

so I posted to VZ direct forums and vz JudeL helped me on 12.3.12 get the speeds back to where they were in May 2012:

Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 1184 448
Margin (dB) 18.0 22.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 32.3 19.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 6.1 11.9

Well..it didn't last but 10 days! Something here at the CO in my small town that leads me to believe I'm on the short end of a DSLAM card. They must like to take it from me and use it for ???? So I'm left in the Dial-up era again. Can it be a capacity problem? Kinda doubt it. In the meantime, can anyone here help me?

7:02 AM 12/13/2012
Transceiver Information Down Stream Path Up Stream Path
DSL Speed (Kbits/Sec) 32 160
Margin (dB) 9.3 20.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 30.5 19.0
Transmit Power (dBm) 12.1 11.8

Thanks :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/speedlatency-hard-to-stay-above-dialup-speeds-VZ-direct-27865319 Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:06:15 EDT