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dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online

Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

As of January 15, 2013, the following channels will only be available at the lower channel locations and will no longer be available in the 1000 channel locations: Disney XD (1121/121), ESPNews (1141/141), The Golf Channel (1145/145), Nat Geo Wild (1158/158), Science Channel (1170/170), Destination America (1172/172), Country Music Television (1187/187), Hallmark Movie Channel (1193/193), Bio (1160/160), G4 (1175/175), Style (1176/176), Showtime Extreme (1322/322), Showtime West (1327/327), Showtime Too West (1328/328), Showtime Showcase West (1329/329), Starz West (1345/345), Starz Comedy (1346/346), HBO West (1306/306), HBO2 West (1307/307), HBO Signature West (1308/308), HBO Family West (1309/309), Thriller MAX (1373/373), WMAX (1374/374), 5 Star MAX (1376/376), Cinemax West (1378/378), TMC Xtra (1380/380), TMC West (1381/381), TMC Extra West (1382/382).

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place


mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
said by dm145:

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place

The reason is because a lot of people didn't want to record the HD channels and save space on their DVR by recording the standard def channels which takes up far less space. This is definitely a setback by those who have cable based DVRs.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
nonsense
please explain why they chose only those particular channels?
you explanation would work if they had all channels in that range
not just a random few

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
reply to dm145
I want to know why the only channel in the entire 200-range is 291 The Jewish Channel.

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
I thought they originally moved some SD channels (like ESPN) due to different content played on the SD & HD channels. I don't know if any of these channels had something similar, but I'd be surprised if most/all of them did at some point.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
said by frdrizzt:

I thought they originally moved some SD channels (like ESPN) due to different content played on the SD & HD channels. I don't know if any of these channels had something similar, but I'd be surprised if most/all of them did at some point.

espn is no longer in that range
why would bio or g4 or style to name a few have different sd programming?
makes no sense


mbernste
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join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
reply to dm145
said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

G4 ?? No way.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
reply to mbernste
said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

nice try but doubtful


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

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reply to mbernste
said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place

The reason is because a lot of people didn't want to record the HD channels and save space on their DVR by recording the standard def channels which takes up far less space. This is definitely a setback by those who have cable based DVRs.

I agree. I am a DVR owner and there are a number of cases where I am willing to record the SD feed as opposed to the HD I am forced to record. So long as CV is sending out a SD feed (ie: The one that is used by the Non-HD STBs and DVRs) I do not see any reason why the HD STBs and especially the HD DVRs are not programmed to allow them to be tuned to as a 1xxx channel. If CV had used Hard Drives in their HD DVRs that had the same amount of HD feed recording time as the SD feed recording time as there is on the SD DVR Hard Drives this would not be an issue. Right now due to the forced mapping of the HD feed into the SD channel number range (ie: The range that is feed to SD boxes) I get only half the recording time as I would get if I recorded the same content on a SD DVR.

I can understand why CV maps the 7xx/8xx HD feeds to the 0xx-2xx SD feed channel numbers to avoid confusing HD owners who tune to the low range and asking why they are getting a SD not a HD image but this does not excuse/justify the lack of an option to actually view and record the SD feed.

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
At this point I'd just say "It is what it is", and stop holding out for a pipe dream of being able to choose to record SD in place of HD. The idea of 1000+ for SD channels seemed gone when they added international channels to the 1000 & 1100 range. If it's a deal-breaker, I'd suggest another platform than the 8300 for your DVR usage. Anything that costs around $18 / month or less would net you the same price and give you the feature you are looking for. The lack of interest from anyone else here for the feature, at a forum with a higher technology-aware posters who would think about (and read this request) the thought of increased storage space from recording in HD, tells me this is not something CV is going to modify.

-You can use an external HD for the 8300
-In a mixed HD/SD environment (unsure if it does in a HD-only environment, but I would suspect it does), DVR Plus allows you to choose if recording in HD only (Default) or for "All TVs" in SD, but they don't need to build channel mappings into the individual boxes for each channel.
-TiVo costs $14.95/month + $2 for cable card, and does not have the HD > SD mapping, letting you choose which to record.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
*cough* newsgroups *cough*


NJSTECH

@optonline.net
reply to dm145
Most of those channels were in the 1000's because of the use of video traps. All of the frequencies these channels were on were not blocked by video traps. So if you have basic plus HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc you were able to receive them with a trap on the line. Since video traps are no longer needed because of the digital migration, these channels do not need to be duplicated.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
Reviews:
·Optimum Online
said by NJSTECH :

Most of those channels were in the 1000's because of the use of video traps. All of the frequencies these channels were on were not blocked by video traps. So if you have basic plus HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc you were able to receive them with a trap on the line. Since video traps are no longer needed because of the digital migration, these channels do not need to be duplicated.

now that it the first expaination that makes sense


Jmartz

join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
reply to dm145
The channel lineup makes no sense anymore. They have stuff everywhere, especially the HD stuff in the 800's. ESPN Goal Line or whatever is right in the middle of the movie channels.. I think channel 830 or something...


nelson99

@verizon.net
reply to mbernste
said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

far from it. highest rated networks by nielson are in not particular order: usa, espn, nick, fox news

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
reply to dm145
They should remove channels 1990-1997 while there at it!
No reason for those either?

RobertMets12

join:2010-10-16
Does anybody know what ch 1990-1997 are for.

Bob4
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
We need channels 1980-1989 for Dude111!!!

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ

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reply to dm145
well, in true Cablevision fashion, they only removed a random portion of the random channels in this range.

my system still has 12 of 16 movie chs in the 1xxx range and a smattering of others

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
You complain about everything CV does. Why do you continue to use the service?

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
This forum is for discussions about the Optimum Online high speed Internet service, as well as Cablevision's iO and Optimum Voice services.

dm145

join:2009-12-12
Clifton, NJ
reply to dm145
the rest of them were removed last night
all are showing message to direct viewers to lower channels