Topic 'Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's' in forum 'OptimumOnline' - dslreports.com

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:08:11 EDT

dm145 posted : the rest of them were removed last night
all are showing message to direct viewers to lower channels

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:55:58 EDT

dm145 posted : This forum is for discussions about the Optimum Online high speed Internet service, as well as Cablevision's iO and Optimum Voice services.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 19:03:31 EDT

frdrizzt posted : You complain about everything CV does. Why do you continue to use the service?

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:17:58 EDT

dm145 posted : well, in true Cablevision fashion, they only removed a random portion of the random channels in this range.

my system still has 12 of 16 movie chs in the 1xxx range and a smattering of others

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:05:46 EDT

Bob posted : We need channels 1980-1989 for Dude111!!!

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:54:28 EDT

RobertMets12 posted : Does anybody know what ch 1990-1997 are for.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:58:06 EDT

dm145 posted : They should remove channels 1990-1997 while there at it!
No reason for those either?

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 06 Jan 2013 01:10:12 EDT

anon posted :

said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

far from it. highest rated networks by nielson are in not particular order: usa, espn, nick, fox news

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sat, 05 Jan 2013 17:43:55 EDT

Jmartz posted : The channel lineup makes no sense anymore. They have stuff everywhere, especially the HD stuff in the 800's. ESPN Goal Line or whatever is right in the middle of the movie channels.. I think channel 830 or something...

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:18:23 EDT

dm145 posted :

said by NJSTECH :

Most of those channels were in the 1000's because of the use of video traps. All of the frequencies these channels were on were not blocked by video traps. So if you have basic plus HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc you were able to receive them with a trap on the line. Since video traps are no longer needed because of the digital migration, these channels do not need to be duplicated.

now that it the first expaination that makes sense

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:03:59 EDT

anon posted : Most of those channels were in the 1000's because of the use of video traps. All of the frequencies these channels were on were not blocked by video traps. So if you have basic plus HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, etc you were able to receive them with a trap on the line. Since video traps are no longer needed because of the digital migration, these channels do not need to be duplicated.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:57:40 EDT

Bob posted : *cough* newsgroups *cough*

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:22:14 EDT

frdrizzt posted : At this point I'd just say "It is what it is", and stop holding out for a pipe dream of being able to choose to record SD in place of HD. The idea of 1000+ for SD channels seemed gone when they added international channels to the 1000 & 1100 range. If it's a deal-breaker, I'd suggest another platform than the 8300 for your DVR usage. Anything that costs around $18 / month or less would net you the same price and give you the feature you are looking for. The lack of interest from anyone else here for the feature, at a forum with a higher technology-aware posters who would think about (and read this request) the thought of increased storage space from recording in HD, tells me this is not something CV is going to modify.

-You can use an external HD for the 8300
-In a mixed HD/SD environment (unsure if it does in a HD-only environment, but I would suspect it does), DVR Plus allows you to choose if recording in HD only (Default) or for "All TVs" in SD, but they don't need to build channel mappings into the individual boxes for each channel.
-TiVo costs $14.95/month + $2 for cable card, and does not have the HD > SD mapping, letting you choose which to record.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:06:54 EDT

RARPSL posted :

said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place

The reason is because a lot of people didn't want to record the HD channels and save space on their DVR by recording the standard def channels which takes up far less space. This is definitely a setback by those who have cable based DVRs.

I agree. I am a DVR owner and there are a number of cases where I am willing to record the SD feed as opposed to the HD I am forced to record. So long as CV is sending out a SD feed (ie: The one that is used by the Non-HD STBs and DVRs) I do not see any reason why the HD STBs and especially the HD DVRs are not programmed to allow them to be tuned to as a 1xxx channel. If CV had used Hard Drives in their HD DVRs that had the same amount of HD feed recording time as the SD feed recording time as there is on the SD DVR Hard Drives this would not be an issue. Right now due to the forced mapping of the HD feed into the SD channel number range (ie: The range that is feed to SD boxes) I get only half the recording time as I would get if I recorded the same content on a SD DVR.

I can understand why CV maps the 7xx/8xx HD feeds to the 0xx-2xx SD feed channel numbers to avoid confusing HD owners who tune to the low range and asking why they are getting a SD not a HD image but this does not excuse/justify the lack of an option to actually view and record the SD feed.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:24:07 EDT

dm145 posted :

said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

nice try but doubtful

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:10:53 EDT

Bob posted :

said by mbernste:

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

G4 ?? No way.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Mon, 31 Dec 2012 06:45:19 EDT

mbernste posted :

said by dm145:

please explain why they chose only those particular channels?

Because those are the most viewed non-OTA channels in Cablevision's lineup.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 22:07:51 EDT

dm145 posted :

said by frdrizzt:

I thought they originally moved some SD channels (like ESPN) due to different content played on the SD & HD channels. I don't know if any of these channels had something similar, but I'd be surprised if most/all of them did at some point.

espn is no longer in that range
why would bio or g4 or style to name a few have different sd programming?
makes no sense

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:47:44 EDT

frdrizzt posted : I thought they originally moved some SD channels (like ESPN) due to different content played on the SD & HD channels. I don't know if any of these channels had something similar, but I'd be surprised if most/all of them did at some point.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 21:28:24 EDT

Bob posted : I want to know why the only channel in the entire 200-range is 291 The Jewish Channel.

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:55:59 EDT

dm145 posted : nonsense
please explain why they chose only those particular channels?
you explanation would work if they had all channels in that range
not just a random few

Re: Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:50:40 EDT

mbernste posted :

said by dm145:

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place

Removal of those random duplicate SD channels in the 1000's

Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:41:33 EDT

dm145 posted : As of January 15, 2013, the following channels will only be available at the lower channel locations and will no longer be available in the 1000 channel locations: Disney XD (1121/121), ESPNews (1141/141), The Golf Channel (1145/145), Nat Geo Wild (1158/158), Science Channel (1170/170), Destination America (1172/172), Country Music Television (1187/187), Hallmark Movie Channel (1193/193), Bio (1160/160), G4 (1175/175), Style (1176/176), Showtime Extreme (1322/322), Showtime West (1327/327), Showtime Too West (1328/328), Showtime Showcase West (1329/329), Starz West (1345/345), Starz Comedy (1346/346), HBO West (1306/306), HBO2 West (1307/307), HBO Signature West (1308/308), HBO Family West (1309/309), Thriller MAX (1373/373), WMAX (1374/374), 5 Star MAX (1376/376), Cinemax West (1378/378), TMC Xtra (1380/380), TMC West (1381/381), TMC Extra West (1382/382).

glad to see them gone since there was no rhyme or reason why those particular channels where there in the first place