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Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to UnnDunn

Re: Fios Media Server

Thanks for the explanation, UnnDunn.

I assume that this would work on iPads as well?

I would personally stream to my iPad, which would be free ass it is now, rather than pay 50 bucks for xbox live Gold, to do the same thing.



Webcobbler

@verizon.net

Does anyone know if the Media Server will have HEVC? I assume it will because it is ready to be ratified as an international standard this month.

So, better picture at 1/2 the Bandwidth to support future Ultra HD TVs and Tablets etc . It is a must have, IMHO


tennisman94

join:2010-02-18
Palm Harbor, FL
kudos:2

said by Webcobbler :

Does anyone know if the Media Server will have HEVC? I assume it will because it is ready to be ratified as an international standard this month.

So, better picture at 1/2 the Bandwidth to support future Ultra HD TVs and Tablets etc . It is a must have, IMHO

Doubtful, production silicon was only announced at CES, and it's usually at least a year before it appears in any shipping products


Webcobbler

@verizon.net

That's too bad. I would be willing to wait longer for them to have the HEVC codec in the Media Server.



frankpf3
Verizon Fios

join:2007-08-09
Huntington Station, NY
kudos:1
reply to Reyr

Is there any way to order this thing yet? Is there a waiting list?



PoloDude
Premium,VIP
join:2006-03-29
Northport, NY
kudos:3

No.


navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to Reyr

Will there be any additional monthly charges in addition to the current $20 a month DVR charge for this new media server?


kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2

PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.


tennisman94

join:2010-02-18
Palm Harbor, FL
kudos:2

said by kes601:

PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.

Probably. They may even charge a higher fee monthly based on how may auxiliary boxes you have connected, even if you own them. (i.e. PS3 or Smart TV).

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to kes601

said by kes601:

PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.

No thankyou Verizon. I am already paying $155(TV and Internet) for double play with(DVR with 2 HD boxes). I refuse to pay more.

1. Recording up to 6 programs at once isn't important to me. Current system of 2 live recordings is okay for me.

2. 1 TB of additional storage no longer important. I already have a 1 TB external drive connected to my DVR.

3. Availability of youtube. I already have youtube on both my Roku boxes

nfotiu

join:2009-01-25

Yeah, I agree there isn't a whole lot of value add in this.

Directv's Genie is pretty much the same thing, if not better, and their per tv price is far cheaper than Verizon already. If Fios is charging even more than they charge for their current setup, they are not going to be the least bit competitive. FIOS internet is good, but their TV is a half notch below directv already. I would think a setup like with with light weight clients could be offered at a lower total price than with their current tv, not at a higher price.

If they are not going to use the media server to reduce equipment charges, they are going to lose a lot of tv customers like myself.


navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD

said by nfotiu:

Yeah, I agree there isn't a whole lot of value add in this.

Directv's Genie is pretty much the same thing, if not better, and their per tv price is far cheaper than Verizon already. If Fios is charging even more than they charge for their current setup, they are not going to be the least bit competitive. FIOS internet is good, but their TV is a half notch below directv already. I would think a setup like with with light weight clients could be offered at a lower total price than with their current tv, not at a higher price.

If they are not going to use the media server to reduce equipment charges, they are going to lose a lot of tv customers like myself.

Verizon has already said that they do not plan to compete on price because they believe they have a "superior product".

They are trying to use the same rational they use with Verizon Wireless with Verizon FIOS. However, that's its not an equal comparison.

Even though both Verizon Wireless and Verizon FIOS regularly come out on top with consumer survey's, Verizon Wireless is clearly leaps and bounds above its competitors in coverage and service. Verizon FIOS though not so and many of its competitors have lots more HD, better DVR's, lower prices, etc.

I am not sure how much more than $20 month people will be willing to pay.


crgauth

join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD
kudos:1
reply to nfotiu

I disagree.
One of the things I understand will be available will be the ability to control live TV from every box. Would love to be able to pause TV from every STB.
I know more people that have dropped satellite due to reception problems than have dropped cable for satellite.
When I looked, it was not much cheaper. And although they have a few more channels, not anything I really want.
Plus as I understand it, Directv doesn't have VOD like FIOS.


navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD

said by crgauth:

I disagree.
One of the things I understand will be available will be the ability to control live TV from every box. Would love to be able to pause TV from every STB.
I know more people that have dropped satellite due to reception problems than have dropped cable for satellite.
When I looked, it was not much cheaper. And although they have a few more channels, not anything I really want.
Plus as I understand it, Directv doesn't have VOD like FIOS.

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

How much additional per month are you willing to pay to get the new media server?

Controlling live TV from every box? Not important to me. Most times I forget I have that feature since I DVR most of my shows.

JackBauer

join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY

I'm excited about this - but if they price it about $20, my excitement starts dropping.

Technology advances, and generally had has positive pricing benefits. If they look to make it a cash cow, I'll just say with TWC.


navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD

said by JackBauer:

I'm excited about this - but if they price it about $20, my excitement starts dropping.

Technology advances, and generally had has positive pricing benefits. If they look to make it a cash cow, I'll just say with TWC.

Don't hold your breadth. Verizon never gives you more for less.

bsangs

join:2002-08-21
Montclair, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to navyson

said by navyson:

said by crgauth:

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

There are several other differences as well - including the fact that FiOS has over 50,000 On Demand offerings, while Directv has about 10,000.

crgauth

join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD
kudos:1
reply to navyson

said by navyson:

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

How much additional per month are you willing to pay to get the new media server?

Hard to say at this point until all the features are known. But would be ok with paying what I am paying today (others were wondering if price should drop).

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD

said by crgauth:

said by navyson:

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

How much additional per month are you willing to pay to get the new media server?

Hard to say at this point until all the features are known. But would be ok with paying what I am paying today (others were wondering if price should drop).

Why would the prices drop? Verizon never drops prices.They have said repeatedly that they won't compete on price since it considers itself as offering a premium product.

I would be shocked if Verizon offers all these new features for the same price as the current DVR.

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to bsangs

said by bsangs:

said by navyson:

said by crgauth:

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

There are several other differences as well - including the fact that FiOS has over 50,000 On Demand offerings, while Directv has about 10,000.

Great if you consider On Demand offerings important. I rarely ever watch anything on demand. I DVR 99% of my viewing.

prisaz

join:2008-08-11
Germantown, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to navyson

said by navyson:

said by crgauth:

said by navyson:

Directv's VOD requires an internet connection. Its kinda like Netflix.

How much additional per month are you willing to pay to get the new media server?

Hard to say at this point until all the features are known. But would be ok with paying what I am paying today (others were wondering if price should drop).

Why would the prices drop? Verizon never drops prices.They have said repeatedly that they won't compete on price since it considers itself as offering a premium product.

I would be shocked if Verizon offers all these new features for the same price as the current DVR.

There will be a cost involved for the new hardware upgrade. I can confirm that. What the cost will be, I can't confirm. I was a Verizon guest at the CES 2013, and was told that a cost could be confirmed. For example, when the new 7232 came out, there was a cost for that upgrade. No one knows what the cost will be for the VMS1100 and the IPC1100. But there will be one. The new server has much more capacity, and many more features than the existing hardware, and seeing it at the show, I could not expect it to be a free upgrade. It is very fast and as documented in many press releases, runs HTML5. I can insure you, that you will not see any delays in menu or channel changes with this server. It has power!

»forums.verizon.com/t5/Verizon-at···p/533949

JackBauer

join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY

said by prisaz:

There will be a cost involved for the new hardware upgrade. I can confirm that. What the cost will be, I can't confirm. I was a Verizon guest at the CES 2013, and was told that a cost could be confirmed. For example, when the new 7232 came out, there was a cost for that upgrade. No one knows what the cost will be for the VMS1100 and the IPC1100. But there will be one.

As someone who has not yet subscribed - and is waiting for this product, I will not pay more than $20 / month for the main unit. (Unless the child boxes are less than the HD STB's are today and together 1+1 = less than current fees)

The 7232's are now two years old. Technology advances, and I do not feel the new features are 5 years ahead of the 7232's.

bsangs

join:2002-08-21
Montclair, NJ
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to navyson

said by navyson:

Great if you consider On Demand offerings important. I rarely ever watch anything on demand. I DVR 99% of my viewing.

As do I, but that doesn't change the fact it's one of the big differences between the two providers.


catchup

@verizon.net
reply to Reyr

When they first announced these new devices 1TB may have looked good compared to the 500GB that was/is available on their newest current DVR, but as time drags to when these will actually become available, 1TB seems quaint (notwithstanding that you can add external storage).

The ability to record six simultaneous shows to, what is today, a rather meager HD space seems incongruent when 4TB HD's are available for not much more.


crgauth

join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD
kudos:1
reply to prisaz

said by prisaz:

There will be a cost involved for the new hardware upgrade. I can confirm that. What the cost will be, I can't confirm. I was a Verizon guest at the CES 2013, and was told that a cost could be confirmed. For example, when the new 7232 came out, there was a cost for that upgrade.

I think part of what people are asking is will there be a one time cost (like there was for the upgrade to the 7232) or an increase in the monthly cost?
I would be willing to pay something (on the same order as the 7232 upgrade) to get the newer devices, but not sure that I would pay too much more per month as that adds up over time).

prisaz

join:2008-08-11
Germantown, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

said by crgauth:

said by prisaz:

There will be a cost involved for the new hardware upgrade. I can confirm that. What the cost will be, I can't confirm. I was a Verizon guest at the CES 2013, and was told that a cost could be confirmed. For example, when the new 7232 came out, there was a cost for that upgrade.

I think part of what people are asking is will there be a one time cost (like there was for the upgrade to the 7232) or an increase in the monthly cost?
I would be willing to pay something (on the same order as the 7232 upgrade) to get the newer devices, but not sure that I would pay too much more per month as that adds up over time).

I will repeat~! Yes there will be a cost for the Upgrade, we just don't know the cost. As for the monthly costs for the remote boxes, and the monthly cost for the server, your guess is as good as mine in regards to all of those items. I do not expect Verizon to release any pricing information, until it is time for the product to hit the market. We all just need to wait and see.

There is no more information I have, and I do not believe you will find out by continuing to ask anyone. I can say that from being as close to the source as possible.

Best Regards to all. My final post on the subject.

kennye

join:2009-02-05
Carrollton, TX

I will be interested in the overall price and capability. Will be interested how the terminal server and remote boxes compare to my current configuration and if additional functionality will be available. Only an announcement will tell.


JSM88

join:2000-12-20
Falls Church, VA
reply to Reyr

dead thread - when in gods name are these coming out?



HenryFarpolo
Premium
join:2003-08-31
Andover, MA

The third quarter of this year is the best estimate at this time.

Keep in mind however, that rapid deployment is not a Verizon strong suit.


JSM88

join:2000-12-20
Falls Church, VA

While I've been through this for years with them - a YEAR is one hell of a hardware delay - in any other company the executive in charge would be looking for another job. Anyone willing to voice an opinion on the pros and cons of the similar Directv system - maybe I'll just keep fios internet.