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JackBauer

join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY
reply to Reyr

Re: Fios Media Server

They said these would be available last year...

Annoying they announce it but do not talk about availability...

Timothy28

join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX
Yeah, i think the DLNA ruling is what caused its delay.


Zero

join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA
reply to Reyr
»www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/veri···ands-on/

Engadget got their hands on the VMS and the IPC. The interesting bit the article mentions that I hadn't read anywhere yet was that two VMS can be used in the same home...

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
said by Zero:

»www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/veri···ands-on/

Engadget got their hands on the VMS and the IPC. The interesting bit the article mentions that I hadn't read anywhere yet was that two VMS can be used in the same home...

Of coure the article also says you can connect 5 satellite boxes to the server, yet the video clearly shows only 4.

zippoboy7

join:2006-06-18
USA
reply to Zero
said by Zero:

»www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/veri···ands-on/

Engadget got their hands on the VMS and the IPC. The interesting bit the article mentions that I hadn't read anywhere yet was that two VMS can be used in the same home...

This part concerns me, "What's odd is that the IPC1100 client has a tuner, but it's unused. Instead, the client relies on the server's tuner for live TV." What this now means is when the DVR decides to die (As mine have 3 times since I have had it for 3 years) all your TVs are dead for however long it takes to get a replacement box. Seems stupid to include a tuner but not use it.

OwlSaver
OwlSaver
Premium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA
reply to Sixto
My biggest problem is MLS Direct Kick. It has 8 channels and matches can be on any of them. With three DVRs, I have not found a way to set it up so I always record the matches. Having the same six tuners on one device will make this easier. So, the one device is better for me.

JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:4
reply to zippoboy7
I can guess why they have a built-in tuner. I'm guessing that eventually those satellite boxes will become the standard stand-alone STB. That way, if you have the VMS, they tune off the DVR (the reason for that, btw, is so you can do things like pause live TV), but if you don't, then they can tune directly. Just a guess.

OwlSaver
OwlSaver
Premium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA
They may also need the tuner for decding of content and rules around security. I only say this because TVs with tuners cost so much more than monitors. But a monitor without a tuner cannot be connected to an STB over HDMI. At least that is my experience. It would be great if you could buy a 50" monitor with no tuner and connect it to your STB.

jmcging

join:2005-08-04
Columbia, MD
reply to zippoboy7
I agree. If I understand correctly, if you have 5 sets watching over the air then you can only record 1 show because 5 of the 6 server tuners are in use. In my case, I have 5 HDTVs, with 3 HDDVRs and 2 HD STBs and 4 of the 5 sets will be on evenings and weekends, with mixed watching recordings and live tv. I get that playing back a recorded show doesn't use a tuner, but watching anything live does, and pulls a tuner from DVR use. Due to the tendency of TV shows to start a minute early or run a minute long, even with 6 tuners sometimes it's impossible to record a show (without going full manual) because the timing of the shows preceeding being recorded on any specific DVR keeps the DVR from recording. Or someone prefers live TV on a specifc set at a specific time when you need the 2nd tuner to record means you shift the recording duty to an unused DVR, which is making life too complicated. And we have this problem now while watching live TV; eliminating tuners from use by the DVR will just exascerbate the problem.

If the stbs tuners were live, then this setup would work for me, but with centralized tuners in one box, sorry.

crgauth

join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD
kudos:1
I'm going to take the optimistic stance that you can record 6 shows while watching 6 others (5 remote STBs and local).
Plus they did mention you can have 2 DVRs for a total of 12 tuners.

FIOSHD

join:2007-10-22
united state
reply to Reyr
I had heard that this would have a wireless interface on the home network linking the clients to the server. Is this no longer true? Or are they simply initially deploying using the Coax? I was counting on finally getting a small TV into my Kitchen where I have had great difficulty running coax.

DGGSLF

join:2007-04-14
Lynn, MA
Good question.

Earlier in this thread I asked about router versions that would be required. I believe someone said the Rev I router would be needed, so I assumed it had to do with the wireless download speeds offered by the Rev I versus the Rev F, which is what I currently have.

Does anyone know if Rev I router would still be required to support this Media Server since the new info posted shows that MoCA is what it will use versus wireless?

I would love this for the six tuners and pausing live TV. The specs definitely meets my current needs.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to crgauth
They did. However, they also said that it will be a premium. To me, that means that it will not cost the same as a HMDVR, or a HDSTB. It will cost way more then that. If so, I will not be exchanging my setup for this.

If this were the same price as the current HMDVR (20 bucks) for the Media Server, and the new client HD boxes were the same price as the current HDSTBs (where I live that's 5.99) , then it would make my decision to swap all out for this new setup much easier.

Also, what about streaming content to tablets, like the iPad etc? I have not heard anything like that, or even if it is capable of doing so. All i hear is the Server and client boxes. I want to hear about its streaming capabilities. I would hope that it would allow streaming of ALL Subscribed channels to the iPad, and not just 75 through an app. Also ability to watch DVR content and FREE VOD content via ALL CHANNELS / PACKAGES that i Subscribe to.

The same thing goes for my 2012 Samsung tv. If I can get ALL channels I subscribe to via wifi , nothing else, like i do with the app, then it would make switching to the Media Server an easier decision.

Until I hear pricing, streaming capabilities, etc, even though I would love this new Media Server setup , no go for me.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to FIOSHD
FIOSHD,

I heard that as well, I thought that you could hook these client boxes up via Ethernet or wifi, so one is not obligated to coax limitations. Hell, they even had those two videos last year that showed 3D programming at 40ish mbps via streaming wifi to the client box while walking down their hallway.

Does anyone remember that ?


nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:17
WiFi isn't supported yet with VMS. WiFi will be later this year. Coax/MoCA is still required for VMS.


nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:17
reply to DGGSLF
Rev. I is needed for VMS....

chewypgh

join:2007-12-17
Pittsburgh, PA
reply to Reyr
Dave Zatz mentioned that Verizon tells him that the Media Server will be available “very soon, within a couple months.”

We'll see.

»www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-01/ver···ny%21%29

UnnDunn
Premium
join:2005-12-21
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Reyr
Will it use the same IMG interface?


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to nycdave
nycdave,

How do you know that Only Rev. I is needed for the Media Server to work?

Will Rev. F not because it does not have Duel Antennas? and Duel Bands?

FIOSHD

join:2007-10-22
united state
reply to Reyr
My stupid Q of the day...How do I know what rev router I have?


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
Its listed on the sticker on the router
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nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:17
reply to Webcobbler
said by Webcobbler :

nycdave,

How do you know that Only Rev. I is needed for the Media Server to work?

Will Rev. F not because it does not have Duel Antennas? and Duel Bands?

Too technical to answer here. Let's just say the only router that will work is the Rev. I to keep it simple....

DGGSLF

join:2007-04-14
Lynn, MA
reply to nycdave
Thanks for the feedback nycdave.

So if a customer like me wants/orders VMS and has the older Rev F router, will my self install package include a REV I router or how will that all work?

This latest REV I requirement tends to support the earlier speculation that only new subscribers will be supported initially.


Greg2600

join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ
reply to Reyr
VMS requires you to change out all your boxes, so why not change out the router too!


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to nycdave
I am confused. I cannot find Rev I router online anywhere. Is Rev I the same router as GigE? As in M1424WR ( Gig E ) ? If so, I know that router def has Duel Antenas and Duel GhZ Bands, and I know It supports 1gig wired and 300 Mbps wireless.

If it is not, I think I'm more confused, lol.

Thanks.

waiting4fios

join:2005-04-08
Howell, NJ
reply to Reyr
I think the Rev I router might be needed for support of the MoCA 2.0 standard. Also it might be the only router capable of handling unicasting vs multicasting.

OwlSaver
OwlSaver
Premium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA
Is the Rev I the only one that has an option for IPv6? If so, it could be that it uses IPv6 within the house.


nascar

join:2000-02-28
Verona, NJ
kudos:3
rev. I was upgraded by Firmware to support IPv6.

said by OwlSaver:

Is the Rev I the only one that has an option for IPv6? If so, it could be that it uses IPv6 within the house.


Timothy28

join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX
reply to Reyr
I already have Revision I, so i guess i won't have to worry about needing a new router to upgrade to the VMS.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
Is the Rev I the same as the GigE router ?

I have Rev F, myself.