 JackarinoPremium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1 | reply to FIOSHD
Re: Fios Media Server Its listed on the sticker on the router
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 nycdavePremium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:10
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said by Webcobbler :nycdave,
How do you know that Only Rev. I is needed for the Media Server to work?
Will Rev. F not because it does not have Duel Antennas? and Duel Bands?
Too technical to answer here. Let's just say the only router that will work is the Rev. I to keep it simple.... |
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Thanks for the feedback nycdave.
So if a customer like me wants/orders VMS and has the older Rev F router, will my self install package include a REV I router or how will that all work?
This latest REV I requirement tends to support the earlier speculation that only new subscribers will be supported initially. |
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VMS requires you to change out all your boxes, so why not change out the router too! |
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I am confused. I cannot find Rev I router online anywhere. Is Rev I the same router as GigE? As in M1424WR ( Gig E ) ? If so, I know that router def has Duel Antenas and Duel GhZ Bands, and I know It supports 1gig wired and 300 Mbps wireless.
If it is not, I think I'm more confused, lol.
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I think the Rev I router might be needed for support of the MoCA 2.0 standard. Also it might be the only router capable of handling unicasting vs multicasting. |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA | Is the Rev I the only one that has an option for IPv6? If so, it could be that it uses IPv6 within the house. |
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 nascar
join:2000-02-28
Verona, NJ
kudos:2 | rev. I was upgraded by Firmware to support IPv6.
said by OwlSaver:Is the Rev I the only one that has an option for IPv6? If so, it could be that it uses IPv6 within the house.
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I already have Revision I, so i guess i won't have to worry about needing a new router to upgrade to the VMS. |
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I have Rev F, myself. |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to DGGSLF
said by DGGSLF:So if a customer like me wants/orders VMS and has the older Rev F router, will my self install package include a REV I router Who said anything about self-install?
I would not expect that initially.
said by DGGSLF:This latest REV I requirement tends to support the earlier speculation that only new subscribers will be supported initially.
Not necessarily. It's been VZ's policy that if you order a package that requires a router upgrade, they will provide a router that meets the requirements of that upgrade.
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More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to Webcobbler
said by Webcobbler :Is Rev I the same router as GigE? As in M1424WR ( Gig E ) ? Both the rev. G and rev. I have GigE ports. The rev. G is now discontinued, so essentially, yes, when someone says GigE, they're referring to the rev. I.
said by Webcobbler :I know that router def has Duel Antenas and Duel GhZ Bands, and I know It supports 1gig wired and 300 Mbps wireless.
Not accurate. The rev. I is NOT currently dual band. It is 2.4Ghz only. It is also currently only 130Mbps.
Rumor has it there may be a firmware upgrade coming that will upgrade the wireless.
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More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to waiting4fios
said by waiting4fios:I think the Rev I router might be needed for support of the MoCA 2.0 standard. The rev. I is MoCA 1.1. It is not MoCA 2.0 That requires new chips and can not be upgraded with a firmware update.
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 Zero
join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA | reply to nycdave
said by nycdave:said by Webcobbler :nycdave,
How do you know that Only Rev. I is needed for the Media Server to work?
Will Rev. F not because it does not have Duel Antennas? and Duel Bands?
Too technical to answer here. Let's just say the only router that will work is the Rev. I to keep it simple.... The real question though is does that Rev. I need to be the primary router or can it still function as a NIM to accomplish its tasks? If it's a requirement for the Rev. I to be the primary router then there's no more being able to use a 3rd party router with a VMS in your home. |
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More Fiber,
Thank You for your response and explanation.
When I first heard of the G router, or Gig E wireless N Router, I thought one could only get it with the 150/65 internet speed because it is a Gigabit Router. I guess it is the same now for the new VMS Server. One needs the GigE Router (Rev. I) in order to run everything properly because it is more powerful or what not (I do not know the details why that is so).
Also, Rev. F routers need to be replaced. I assume if that is the case, then my ONT would need to be replaced because is it a BPON, and only goes to 100mbps. I need a GPON to get the Gigabit speeds.
I assume now that router has been discontinued for the new Rev. I Gigabit (Gig E) router? Just like newer routesr have come and gone (ex. Rev C, now its F etc.) |
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Looking at the pictures that were posted, I don't see anything new that would warrant a truck roll. You plug the cables in and it's done. If you need a new router, you unplug the one that is there and plug the new one in.
Verizon may prove me wrong but like all businesses, they are looking for the cheapest route which would be self install.
The process should be the same as it is today. |
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danman48
join:2007-10-11
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to Reyr
Hi Party People,
Dave Zatz has most of it covered in his article, but I talked to the VZ guy for about 30 minutes and here are my notes:
You'll be able to put 2 VMS's in the home for a total of 10 (12 if you count the VMS boxes).
You'll not need a ONT upgrade to go past 7 TVS
You'll get 5 TV per VMS
NINJA EDIT: You'll need a Rev I router.
Each client (IPC1100) will be chained to a VMS box so each acted like it's own DVR.
The software they were running is likely to be 1.9.5, it cleans up some stuff and the widgets look better
All devices will be able to access recordings from each VMS and the VMSs will be able to see recordings from each other.
The client boxes are small, they run on 12V so you'll have a standard power brick, but it helps in mounting them behind TVs.
They both have IR extender ports so hiding the boxes will be cool.
Use the same remotes as exisiting.
The back of the VMS looks like the regular boxes.
The processor in the VMS is much faster
I asked about MPEG4 roll out in the context of dropping the QIP2500 and 6000s series boxes and they're just going to do it organically as they're doing now. If you want new content that is MPEG4 you'll have to "get" a new box. No word on when that was going to happen.
The point was brought up about if you're watching 4 TVs can you only record 2 other shows. I'll ask about that a little more tomorrow.
But most people have more TVs than people in their house so either you're REALLY anti social or this isn't going to be the solution for you.
Also I'll confirm but I'm pretty sure you either have the VMS or the current system but they won't work in tandem.
As long as it doesn't suck and won't be buggy (soo...it'll likely suck and be buggy for a while) it'll be an interesting step.
I asked about using iPad to stream recorded content and that's in the pipleine, so I figure probably a year.
They also had a demo of RedBox Instant by verizon. No discount for verizon FIOS and no intergration. Verizon is just pay for it basically. It'll be $8/month unlimited streaming and 4 free real DVDs from a red box machine a month. You'll be able to go offline only on tablet and mobile for flights, computer you'll still need to stream. And they will have a pretty good selection of movies. They'll also be on Samung TVs and I think LG...I asked about a native FIOS app...NOPE. haha...
Msg me questions..I'll check back tomorrow morning before the show and see if I can get some answers for you.
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JackarinoPremium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1 | Good info, thx |
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Sixto
join:2005-09-16
Northeast | reply to danman48
Great post. Much better answers. 
Biggest remaining curiosity is if the client tuners will be utilized, basically the question of when 4 remote TV's are on will the VMS1100 only record 2 shows.
Allowing multiple VMS' and enabling each client and server to see all content from either server is perfect.
I'm currently a huge fan of the DirecTV H25/HR34 solution, but this VMS solution will make it an interesting comparison.
I have 7 TV's. His and Her's VMS1100's, with 5 clients, where the clients can operate independently (own tuner) thus allowing 12 active recordings would be awesome.
One last question, if the client needs to always steal a VMS tuner, when the client is off will it release the tuner? |
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Thanks for doing this danman,
Two questions:
1. Does the VMS IPC use RVU, or some other proprietary protocol?
2. In the same vein, will other clients like Blu-Ray players and game consoles (PS3 or XBOX 360) that are RVU enabled be able to act as clients out of the box, or will they require separate apps, and is there a timetable for 3rd party clients (beyond when the FCC mandates it) |
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