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Timothy28

join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX
reply to Reyr

Re: Fios Media Server

I'd really like to ETA date and pricing but i doubt they'll give any of that away yet.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to danman48
The big question for me is: Why does one need the Rev I / GigE router in order for this new Media Server and client boxes to work together? That is my biggest question of the night.

Is it because it'll stream the content to the boxes at over 100mbps?

I think they said that this will start rolling out Def this year, but I believe that we will see it probly in the fall.

Also, I guess that to enable iPad streaming, it will just be a software or firmware update? Whenever that will be. And I would imagine that we can then stream ALL channels we subscribe to, as well ad view DVR content ?

Thanks.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to danman48
I also have another question:

I thought that these boxes were going to be hooked up via Ethernet and WiFi? For example, the Media Server would be connected to the router by Ethernet, and the client boxes would connect via WiFi or Ethernet, so one could Velcro thm to your TV.

They even had a video last year about this. I have it bookmarked. It showed a 3D channel being streamed wirelessly to a client box attached to a tv being rolled down a hallway. Does anyone remember this?

So, in addition , ask them if this is the correct setup , or will it have to be coax? Even though they said the former. Or if there will be a software/firmware update to enable that.

Thanks.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
said by Webcobbler :

I also have another question:

I thought that these boxes were going to be hooked up via Ethernet and WiFi? For example, the Media Server would be connected to the router by Ethernet, and the client boxes would connect via WiFi or Ethernet, so one could Velcro thm to your TV.

They even had a video last year about this. I have it bookmarked. It showed a 3D channel being streamed wirelessly to a client box attached to a tv being rolled down a hallway. Does anyone remember this?

So, in addition , ask them if this is the correct setup , or will it have to be coax? Even though they said the former. Or if there will be a software/firmware update to enable that.

Thanks.

Read back through the thread, nycdave See Profile offers some nice insight on your questions.

JackBauer

join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY
reply to Reyr
Dan...

Find out why the boxes are so ugly. It's like MOT put all their effort into the engineering of the electronics and and zero on aesthetics. Won't affect me at all, but really someone said it looked like something from the 70's.

I ignored it at first, but the more I look at those boring ugly boxes.... Just a little peculiar. (I obviously care more about availability then this)

buckweet1980

join:2011-12-31
Allen, TX
reply to Webcobbler
said by Webcobbler :

The big question for me is: Why does one need the Rev I / GigE router in order for this new Media Server and client boxes to work together? That is my biggest question of the night.

Is it because it'll stream the content to the boxes at over 100mbps?

I think they said that this will start rolling out Def this year, but I believe that we will see it probly in the fall.

Also, I guess that to enable iPad streaming, it will just be a software or firmware update? Whenever that will be. And I would imagine that we can then stream ALL channels we subscribe to, as well ad view DVR content ?

Thanks.

Maybe this device requires IPv6?? Could it be this is what will help bring it? One can only hope..

JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:4
reply to Webcobbler
said by Webcobbler :

I also have another question:

I thought that these boxes were going to be hooked up via Ethernet and WiFi? For example, the Media Server would be connected to the router by Ethernet, and the client boxes would connect via WiFi or Ethernet, so one could Velcro thm to your TV.

They even had a video last year about this. I have it bookmarked. It showed a 3D channel being streamed wirelessly to a client box attached to a tv being rolled down a hallway. Does anyone remember this?

So, in addition , ask them if this is the correct setup , or will it have to be coax? Even though they said the former. Or if there will be a software/firmware update to enable that.

Thanks.

I think I know which video you're talking about, and even in that video Verizon was pretty clear about this - initially the hookups will be wired. When it first comes out, you'll need a coax connection to the satellite boxes. But eventually (not sure when) they'll allow for wireless connectivity. They've always said that the initial configuration will be wired.


Greg2600

join:2008-05-20
Belleville, NJ
reply to Reyr
As long as its coax, I'd prefer to remain that way, rather than go to wireless. Simply a more dependable connection.


nascar

join:2000-02-28
Verona, NJ
kudos:3
reply to Reyr
2 Motorola Medios+ VMS1100 in the home, 12 tuners, 1 TB expandable each, and sharing content. Now we're talking. As long as pricing is in line with current offerings of course.

JPL
Premium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:4
reply to Greg2600
said by Greg2600:

As long as its coax, I'd prefer to remain that way, rather than go to wireless. Simply a more dependable connection.

What I got from the video, and other information I've seen, wireless will be an option. Not mandatory. I echo concerns with wireless providing dependable connections, but if that video is any indication, the demonstration that the Verizon tech did was impressive (moving a TV with a wirelessly connected box, something like 200' from the source, through concrete and steel, and the picture was still pristine). I'd love to have the option for a wireless connection at the very least.

tennisman94

join:2010-02-18
Palm Harbor, FL
kudos:2
reply to Reyr
It probably needs a REV I because MoCA 1.1 raises the client limit.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to JPL
I would love the option for Ethernet. Perticuarly, in my House, it is extremely easier to run Ethernet Cables than adding another coax cable somewhere. So viewing tv via The Mexia Server and client boxes hooked up to Ethernet would be ideal, bc I could put TVs where I want more easily.

Timothy28

join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX
reply to Reyr
At my previous residence i had U-verse and had their wireless STB's. They worked perfectly. So i see no reason why verizon can't make theirs wireless somewhere down the line.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to Webcobbler
These are the 2 videos I was talking about earlier. They show and explain that the Media Server and client boxes are or will be hooked up via Ethernet directly, or WiFi. IMHO, it cuts the cord on Coax.

The question is then... Coax is the initial setup, then will a software/firmware update come to enable Ethernet and WiFI, as well as streaming all subscribed channels and DVR / freeVOD to the iPad etc?

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=QogfVxts···youtu.be


»www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dCi6ul1···youtu.be


I know I might have reiterated my questions or statements from earlier, and I apologize.

Thanks

Timothy28

join:2006-05-13
Lewisville, TX
I would assume those features will be down the line since we know its going to a staged rollout

danman48

join:2007-10-11
Huntington Beach, CA
reply to Reyr
Hey Again,

I didn't get back out to that side of the convention floor today sorry and I had to catch my flight home early.

According to the VZ dude...Rev I is for the second antenna, which I'm guessing means MIMO for the extra wireless bandwidth. I don't think they're going to run anything over ethernet. It'll either be wireless or Coax for MoCa.

(Side note: I did go over to the MoCa booth and the DLNA booth and talked with them for a while. It looks like Xbox is going to be a DLNA renderer now. Nothing but the regular stuff for MoCa).

I'll see if I can't get some more info out of the VZ guys on twitter or by email.

Good show. Back to the shadows.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
What exactly is DLNA renderer? Server? And controller? I never truly fully understood the difference. Etc.

And what does that mean in terms of the Xbox? is it bc of its FiOS steaming app that it has?

If so, Samsung TVs and iPads have the same streaming app. What about those becoming renderers or whatnot ?

Can someone shed some light in that.

Thank You.

UnnDunn
Premium
join:2005-12-21
Brooklyn, NY
DLNA is a protocol for streaming media around your home from one device to another using standard IP.

There are two ways for this to happen:
1. A DLNA Client (a device that can play media) requests ("pulls") media from a DLNA Server (a device that has access to lots of media), or
2. A DLNA Controller (a device that has access to lots of media) sends ("pushes") media to a DLNA renderer (a device that can play media.)

In both cases, there is the storage device (where the media is stored) and the player device (where the media is played.) The key difference is which device initiates the streaming transaction.

Older DLNA devices only supported the first method, where a Client pulls from a Server. This was how it used to work on Xbox 360 and Windows XP--the 360 was the client, and Windows XP was the server.

Newer devices support the second method, where a Controller pushes to a Renderer. This is how it works now with Xbox 360 and Windows 7 or 8--360 is a Renderer and Windows 7/8 is the Controller; this is known as "Play To" in Windows Media Player.

The twist is that the DLNA Server doesn't have to be on your network. There are plans in the works for cable companies such as Verizon to establish DLNA Servers on their networks which any subscriber would be able to access using a DLNA Client (such as a standard 360 or PS3) in order to stream live TV. There would be no special app or device certification needed; the device would merely need to be a standard DLNA Client with support for a to-be-determined DRM overlay (so that you can only stream the channels you've paid for, naturally.)

DGGSLF

join:2007-04-14
Lynn, MA

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reply to DGGSLF
So what's the word now that CES is over? Do we have an ETA for when trials will start?


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to Webcobbler
Question:

If one is to get the Media Server, which requires a new upgrade to the GigE / rev. I router and a new GPON ONT... is that person then required to switch their internet to either the 150/65 or 300/65 speed? Given that the Media Server to me, requires a 150/65 connection. Or can they still have the internet speed that they currently have? (ex. I have 75/35)

Thanks


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
reply to UnnDunn
Thanks for the explanation, UnnDunn.

I assume that this would work on iPads as well?

I would personally stream to my iPad, which would be free ass it is now, rather than pay 50 bucks for xbox live Gold, to do the same thing.


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
Does anyone know if the Media Server will have HEVC? I assume it will because it is ready to be ratified as an international standard this month.

So, better picture at 1/2 the Bandwidth to support future Ultra HD TVs and Tablets etc . It is a must have, IMHO

tennisman94

join:2010-02-18
Palm Harbor, FL
kudos:2
said by Webcobbler :

Does anyone know if the Media Server will have HEVC? I assume it will because it is ready to be ratified as an international standard this month.

So, better picture at 1/2 the Bandwidth to support future Ultra HD TVs and Tablets etc . It is a must have, IMHO

Doubtful, production silicon was only announced at CES, and it's usually at least a year before it appears in any shipping products


Webcobbler

@verizon.net
That's too bad. I would be willing to wait longer for them to have the HEVC codec in the Media Server.


frankpf3
Verizon Fios

join:2007-08-09
Huntington Station, NY
kudos:1
reply to Reyr
Is there any way to order this thing yet? Is there a waiting list?


PoloDude
Premium,VIP
join:2006-03-29
Northport, NY
kudos:3
No.

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to Reyr
Will there be any additional monthly charges in addition to the current $20 a month DVR charge for this new media server?

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.

tennisman94

join:2010-02-18
Palm Harbor, FL
kudos:2
said by kes601:

PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.

Probably. They may even charge a higher fee monthly based on how may auxiliary boxes you have connected, even if you own them. (i.e. PS3 or Smart TV).

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to kes601
said by kes601:

PRicing hasn't been released, but you can rest assured the price will be well above $20.

No thankyou Verizon. I am already paying $155(TV and Internet) for double play with(DVR with 2 HD boxes). I refuse to pay more.

1. Recording up to 6 programs at once isn't important to me. Current system of 2 live recordings is okay for me.

2. 1 TB of additional storage no longer important. I already have a 1 TB external drive connected to my DVR.

3. Availability of youtube. I already have youtube on both my Roku boxes