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Re: Patent Trolls going after end users nowMoney attracts people. Once asked why he robbed banks, Willie "The Actor" Sutton said "(I) Go where the money is...and go there often." The mere threat of patent or copyright litigation can produce a prolific amount of money in our society. By finding ways of threatening lawsuits against small businesses and individuals, the perpetrators harvest multiple collections of smaller amounts of money that collectively add up to large amounts of money - all without much threat of meaningful legal counter-actions. Add in a minimal "legal" argument for the threats, and it's a "winning" idea much of the time. Is it any wonder that some folks create shell corporations simply to exploit it?
It's up to legislators, regulators, and judges to insist that the legal and regulatory systems be adjusted to prevent their predatory exploitation in this manner... and its up to the citizenry to vocally and repeatedly insist that they do, up to and including voting them out if they won't. In the meantime, people need to fight this in court every time it arises, building case-law precedents as they go. In the end, one will never completely stamp out such kinds of extortion... the perps will merely find some other means of going after money. But in life, you have to plug each and every hole in the dike as you find them... |
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fuziwuziNot born yesterday Premium Member join:2005-07-01 Palm Springs, CA Hitron EN2251 Nest H2D
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said by voxframe:said by StuartMW:said by voxframe:These assholes need to be dragged out into the street and have the living shit beaten out of them. Actually a lot of the world's problems could be fixed this way. Darn right they could. Would fix all this white collar crime in seconds. Would fix cheating politicians once and for all. Would fix scammers, and fraudsters. Would fix corrupt companies and/or their heads. Unacceptable my ass. Society's inability and laziness to deal with this stuff is what's unacceptable. Damn sometimes I wish people would grab pitchforks and torches and just burn the place down. Might accomplish something for once. Start with the lawyers and "investors". They are the root of this evil. |
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OZO Premium Member join:2003-01-17 |
OZO
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2013-Jan-3 2:30 pm
Yep. Just pay money to USPTO and they will be happy to register it for you. They don't care if it was used for thousand of years (you will have to hire your own layers to sue everyone around). USPTO needs your money now. Moreover, they will be happy to assist you in getting that patent, because the more other people get sued over patents like this, the better business will be for USPTO... Everyone will rush to them and buy their own patent and that's what they need. |
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StuartMW
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2013-Jan-3 2:40 pm
Yup. Basically it comes down to how much money you have to pay your lawyers.
My last professional job was with a large company although I worked at a small division.
The company got into patent infringement litigation with a competitor. The lawyers were being paid the equivalent of a Ferrari per month. My joke was that they'd filled the ashtray in the last one and therefore needed a new one.
I took a brief look at the technical claims of both sides and of course it was splitting hairs. But then lawyers do that a lot. |
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pandora Premium Member join:2001-06-01 Outland
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I'm almost tempted to submit a patent for any display of text, numbers or data where a contrast exists between the text, data or numbers and the media they are expressed on. If the patent office approved 5 of the type of patents the OP referenced, why not give me a patent for written expression of any sort on any media. |
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AVDRespice, Adspice, Prospice Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ
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2013-Jan-3 3:53 pm
said by pandora:I'm almost tempted to submit a patent for any display of text, numbers or data where a contrast exists between the text, data or numbers and the media they are expressed on. If the patent office approved 5 of the type of patents the OP referenced, why not give me a patent for written expression of any sort on any media. Google would send a bunch of guys with torches and pitchforks and kick your ass as an example. |
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pandora
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2013-Jan-3 5:18 pm
said by AVD:Google would send a bunch of guys with torches and pitchforks and kick your ass as an example. Honestly, if I were to attempt such stupidity, and if our patent office is stupid enough to give it. I'd give the patent rights to an open source patent holder, to use when any lawyer used any contrasted text on any media to write a letter regarding some fool patent. Dear Lawyer,
Did you know we hold the patent to writing where any contrast exists between text, numbers or data on any media. Your letter regarding patent infringement, infringes on our patent. Please cease and desist from all written expression, or we will be forced to charge you $110,000 per contrasted pixel you or your office use from this date forward.
Note any written response indicates a willful violation of our patent, as does any attempt to challenge the patent which is submitted in violation of our patent. Could be an interesting afternoon for some lawyer. |
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Anon
2013-Jan-4 10:40 am
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said by dave:said by voxframe:It's no different from fraud in the end. I'm not so sure about that. They're probably operating within a legal framework. They've got a patent, so they're entitled to defend that patent (though I'm uncertain about the copier vendor/end user part of it). Once again, if the rules of the game reward aberrant behaviour, it's fruitless to complain about people who exhibit aberrant behaviour that complies with the rules. It's the rules that are wrong - in this case the system that allows such patents. It's not the rules that are wrong, it's the aberrant behavior that's wrong. Cops bend the law all the time and get away with it because cops look after their own. This is the same thing. People have lost all principals of ethics and that's the truth. |
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2013-Jan-4 10:47 am
'The rules of the game' are what permitted the USPTO to award a patent in 2011 for the 'invention' of scanning a document on one system and having it automatically end up on another system.
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AVDRespice, Adspice, Prospice Premium Member join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ |
AVD
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2013-Jan-4 10:58 am
said by dave:'The rules of the game' are what permitted the USPTO to award a patent in 2011 for the 'invention' of scanning a document on one system and having it automatically end up on another system. and the rules allow a challenge. |
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If I'm reading this right, a bunch of lawyers are behind these "shell companies" and after a quick (easy) buck. Sometimes the old ways are the best ways Kill the Lawyers! - Shakespeare Regards |
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OZO
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2013-Jan-4 9:05 pm
It doesn't work this way now - different times, different rules... If you understood the new rules you'd know what to do. Those laws (that make money, as you've noticed, mainly for lawyers) were created by other lawyers. By making the new laws they (lawyers) first of all take care about their own business, not yours. BTW, that's why they will never have unemployment rate similar to what the rest of the country has. Now, why people elect in Congress those lawyers who make the laws to benefit other lawyers? If people don't stop that vicious spiral, the country will end up with lawyers and those who serve them (making their job even more important). The rest will be outsourced to other countries. Ask your representative why s/he votes for patent laws, that benefit mainly the layers? And ask to remove those laws. That will help to reduce the growing population of the lawyers better then old way of killing them |
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