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Re: Patent Trolls going after end users nowsaid by voxframe:It's no different from fraud in the end. I'm not so sure about that. They're probably operating within a legal framework. They've got a patent, so they're entitled to defend that patent (though I'm uncertain about the copier vendor/end user part of it). Once again, if the rules of the game reward aberrant behaviour, it's fruitless to complain about people who exhibit aberrant behaviour that complies with the rules. It's the rules that are wrong - in this case the system that allows such patents. |
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said by dave:said by voxframe:It's no different from fraud in the end. I'm not so sure about that. They're probably operating within a legal framework. They've got a patent, so they're entitled to defend that patent (though I'm uncertain about the copier vendor/end user part of it). In essence it's the same as fraud. Yes it's "legal" but by any common sense it's bullshit. |
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2013-Jan-2 3:41 pm
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said by dave:Once again, if the rules of the game reward aberrant behaviour, it's fruitless to complain about people who exhibit aberrant behaviour that complies with the rules. It's the rules that are wrong - in this case the system that allows such patents. That's the actual root of the problem. The current patent law, that encourages such business. And that must be changed. If you think that by suing patent trolls you can get rid of them, think again. I can assure you that trolling business will not disappear until the current patent law is changed or dismissed all together. |
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StuartMW
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2013-Jan-2 6:01 pm
said by OZO:I can assure you that trolling business will not disappear until ... There are large numbers of low-lifes that like to sail on the legal side of any law knowing full well that they're "untouchable". One can let them do it or "Drag them out into the street and beat the living shit out of them." That tends to discourage this kind of behavior. |
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dave Premium Member join:2000-05-04 not in ohio |
dave
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2013-Jan-2 6:16 pm
In the vigilante imagination, perhaps. In reality, you'll be on the wrong side of a lawsuit. |
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StuartMW
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2013-Jan-2 6:19 pm
In our modern times you're correct. There was a time when someone on the receiving end would feel shame and slink away. Those times are long gone. |
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said by StuartMW:said by OZO:I can assure you that trolling business will not disappear until ... There are large numbers of low-lifes that like to sail on the legal side of any law knowing full well that they're "untouchable". One can let them do it or "Drag them out into the street and beat the living shit out of them." That tends to discourage this kind of behavior. I prefer "change the law" path. Then, when this activity will become illegal, we may call such individuals whatever we want (or they deserve). Until then they are businessmen (activity with purpose of making money) and they do the business legally. Emotionally I agree with your though... |
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Anon
2013-Jan-4 10:40 am
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said by dave:said by voxframe:It's no different from fraud in the end. I'm not so sure about that. They're probably operating within a legal framework. They've got a patent, so they're entitled to defend that patent (though I'm uncertain about the copier vendor/end user part of it). Once again, if the rules of the game reward aberrant behaviour, it's fruitless to complain about people who exhibit aberrant behaviour that complies with the rules. It's the rules that are wrong - in this case the system that allows such patents. It's not the rules that are wrong, it's the aberrant behavior that's wrong. Cops bend the law all the time and get away with it because cops look after their own. This is the same thing. People have lost all principals of ethics and that's the truth. |
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dave Premium Member join:2000-05-04 not in ohio |
dave
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2013-Jan-4 10:47 am
'The rules of the game' are what permitted the USPTO to award a patent in 2011 for the 'invention' of scanning a document on one system and having it automatically end up on another system.
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2013-Jan-4 10:58 am
said by dave:'The rules of the game' are what permitted the USPTO to award a patent in 2011 for the 'invention' of scanning a document on one system and having it automatically end up on another system. and the rules allow a challenge. |
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