 VexorgTR join:2012-08-27 Sheffield Lake, OH kudos:1 Reviews:
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| [PBX] ZZZzzzzzzZZZ I sleep better at night.... For any of you considering a PBX, I encourage it. Since we put one in my office, I've had minimal issues with my VOIP. I like greatly how...
#1..... I am notified promptly by email if there is a problem #2......The system aggressively works to re-connect if there's an issue of any sort #3...... It feeds me a log that has specific details to make problem solving faster.
I would encourage everyone who thought of it over a PBX to go ahead and snag one. Even using a free app of 3CX is an improvement with the notifications and aggressive re-connect.
If you have an extra system, you could go with one of the Asterisk distros too....
I did the ATA thing for a few years, and anything beyond a residence, just suck it up and get the pbx... you can keep your ATA, just make it an extension to your PBX. |
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 TrimlinePremium join:2004-10-24 Windermere, FL | I have to admit, I agree. After 2 years, my PBX is just running fine - even have a backup, just in case... It's been a workhorse, and you can't beat the functionality. |
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 VexorgTR join:2012-08-27 Sheffield Lake, OH kudos:1 Reviews:
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| The ATA sits in the drawer, so if the PBX takes a dive, I can just quick swap it til I get the PBX fixed. 3CX has been my box of choice, just because it's so darn easy to work. On an "Unmanned" XP Box, it's not failed once. with software issues. It's usually some SillyHead who wanted to go on facebook that hoses your Windows box anyway.
Windows as an appliance... who'd have thunk it. |
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 mgraves1Premium join:2004-04-05 Houston, TX Reviews:
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| reply to VexorgTR Actually, my experience is quite the opposite. Some years ago I had an Asterisk server hereabouts. As I was not then, nor am I now, a seasoned Linux sysadmin it created as many problems as it solved.
I am now much better served by using a hosted PBX service. I let the masters of such things handle the software updates, patches, DDOS, etc.
I went back to the business that I'm in, which is something completely different. -- Michael Graves Houston TX »www.mgraves.org |
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 brg join:2001-01-03 Chicago, IL kudos:1 | reply to VexorgTR I tend to walk both sides of this particular fence. Perhaps 3 or 4 sides, even. 
I run a PBX and love its flexibility, and all the things Vex said. It has redundant Internet connections.
My ATA isn't in a drawer; it runs in parallel, direct to the router, bypassing the PBX, registering to my main provider, with robust battery backup. That provider fails-over to my cell.
The second port of that ATA registers to a hosted provider. Why not? |
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 VexorgTR join:2012-08-27 Sheffield Lake, OH kudos:1 | The Asterisk based linux PBX's always bothered me because of difficulty of back-up. I run with 3CX |
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 1 edit | reply to VexorgTR Before we were paying 250/month to AT&T for 3 land lines, plus 50 to an answer service, and had a crappy old Samsung PBX system that didn't know what caller ID was.
Now we have an inhouse PBX, paying less than 50 a month in services, are no longer limited to how many concurrent phone calls to the outside we can have, and have a fantastic phone system.
Huge win. |
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 XCOMdigitalnUllPremium join:2002-06-10 Spring, TX Reviews:
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| reply to VexorgTR said by VexorgTR:The Asterisk based linux PBX's always bothered me because of difficulty of back-up. I run with 3CX What? Are you serious? That is a lame excuse. -- [nUll@dcypher ~]$ |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 Reviews:
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·Shaw
·AcroVoice
·Callcentric
·callwithus
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said by VexorgTR:The Asterisk based linux PBX's always bothered me because of difficulty of back-up. Seriously?
rsync -avz --delete asterisk@asterisk: asterisk-backup/ &> asterisk-backup-log.txt
Backup done. |
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 XCOMdigitalnUllPremium join:2002-06-10 Spring, TX | ^^ rsync +1 ^^ |
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 RobThompsonCaution - Newbie AlertPremium join:2012-02-14 Lasalle, QC Reviews:
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| reply to VexorgTR Are you people talking about running a VOIP office telephone system on a PC and without an ATA? Sorry if this is a really dumb question... Rob. -- Rob. Blog: »googlevoiceforcanadians.com/ |
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 TrimlinePremium join:2004-10-24 Windermere, FL Reviews:
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| said by RobThompson:Are you people talking about running a VOIP office telephone system on a PC and without an ATA? Sorry if this is a really dumb question... Rob. Yes. I have 4 VoIP providers running on one PBX installation. This is a home office environment and works quite well. No ATA's are involved, that's the job of the PBX. |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 Reviews:
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| reply to RobThompson No apology necessary You're correct we're referring to a (typically) office telephone system running on a PC. It's possible to connect an ATA, softphone, or IP phone to such a system. |
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 RobThompsonCaution - Newbie AlertPremium join:2012-02-14 Lasalle, QC | Would it be difficult to set this up for a small office with 8 phones and 4 lines? -- Rob. Blog: »googlevoiceforcanadians.com/ |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 | It would be time consuming. If you already know about VoIP I'd rate the difficulty as moderate. |
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 RobThompsonCaution - Newbie AlertPremium join:2012-02-14 Lasalle, QC | When you say 'time consuming' do you mean for the initial set up or forever? -- Rob. Blog: »googlevoiceforcanadians.com/ |
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 Mangowww.toao.net join:2008-12-25 Alberta kudos:11 Reviews:
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| I was referring to the initial setup. Once it's set up to your liking, you needn't do much with it except install security updates once in a while when they come out. And once you know what you're doing making configuration changes will be quite simple.
Depending on your choice of operating system, 3CX seems to be the most popular for Windows, or Asterisk or one of its many distros for Linux. |
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 RobThompsonCaution - Newbie AlertPremium join:2012-02-14 Lasalle, QC Reviews:
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1 edit | I just looked at the Anveo website and see that the 'Business' plan cost $44.85 per month for 6 users - does that mean 6 concurrent calls on one telephone number? If so, does this mean that a PC/PBX, plus VoIP phones will complete the system? -- Rob. Blog: »googlevoiceforcanadians.com/ |
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 maziloFrom MaziloPremium join:2002-05-30 Lilburn, GA kudos:1 | reply to RobThompson said by RobThompson:Are you people talking about running a VOIP office telephone system on a PC and without an ATA? Yes. I have my FreeSWITCH hosted on a Seagate Dockstar running on an OpenWRT OS. Soon, I will replace this with a Seagate GoFLEX NET device. You can build your PBX system using any PogoPlug device, too. Currently, J&R is having a sale on some PogoPlug devices for as little as $19.99 + FREE S/H to US. You can find out for information on how to hack these PogoPlug devices from Arch Linux ARM. Arch Linux distro source can be downloaded from here. It has a support for both Asterisk and FreeSWITCH. -- don't and stop are the ONLY two 4-letter words considered offensive to men, but not when used together. |
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 1 edit | reply to RobThompson Depends on your knowledge and experience.
I just setup a system with just over 10 extensions and 2 phone lines. I had never touched anything PBX wise like this before so there was a lot of learning about VoIP and telphony.
It took a few weeks of research and playing around to learn and figure things out. Most of it was learning about Aterisk, VoIP, features, configuration, hardware phones, SIP, and LAN/WAN performance related things. In the end it was well worth it and now we are saving a boat load of money per month and have way more functionality compared to what we had.
I used Elastix and deployed it on a Dell Optiplex 755 we had with a couple of drives in RAID 1. And that's sort of the beauty of it as it is open source, and put together so that you can just go and USE it on common hardware.
Those solid state appliances are nice since you won't have to bother with things that can fail on a computer/server ie. fans, HDs, RAM, PSU etc. However at least those are individual components you can replace instead of throwing out the whole thing. |
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