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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

Realistically speaking, how bad/good is this computer?

Basically my friend from college is looking to build a multi-media/entry level gaming pc. Hes All but decided on the parts, but asked me if I thought they were okay. since I'm the computer guy in the group he wanted my input before he bought them. He said his budget is $315, hard budget. I've no idea about apus, all I know about them is faster ram helps.

Stuff he wants to get.

Does this look like a decent build for $300? And improvements that could be made and NOT raise the price?

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASRock FM2A75M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard

Memory: G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply

Stuff he has already.

Storage: WD blue 500GB. Already had it.

Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case. Already had it.



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2133 ram? Really?


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

Its about the same price as the 1866 ram, at least according to him. I haven't looked at the prices much for the list he gave me. From what little I've read on them the faster the memory the better for apus.



tek_zealot

join:2002-06-23
Manchester, TN
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I think that is a powerful system for the price. The AMD APU adds roughly the value of a $50 graphics card. I think roughly at Geforce 9500/Radeon 4650 levels of hardware from a couple of years ago. Should handle older titles easily and newer titles at lower resolutions like 1280x720 and lower quality settings, medium and down. From my casual research, the AMD APU does benefit from faster RAM. So good luck with it.
Tally Ho, pardner.



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Does the Asrock FM2 support XMP? Is there any reason why you can't buy 1600 ram and OC it?

With no GPU you should stick with a smaller PSU--perhaps the builder CX 430 or something similar from Corsair/Seasonic/Rosewill.


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

I would buy 1600 ram and oc it myself, but the guy who is buying it hasn't oc'd anything before in his life. Hence he wants to get this so he doesn't mess it up, as unlikely as it would be for that to happen.

He was looking at the 430 builder series, but it was $10 less than the 500w one he chose.



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The motherboard supports XMP profiles so he will likely have to "overclock it himself" (which involves selecting the speed he wants to set it at from a drop-down menu).

From: »www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A75M-DG···ications

Memory
- Dual Channel DDR3 memory technology
- 2 x DDR3 DIMM slots
- Supports DDR3 2400+(OC)/2133(OC)/1866/1600/1333/1066 non-ECC, un-buffered memory
- Max. capacity of system memory: 32GB*
- Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) 1.3 / 1.2
- Supports AMD Memory Profile (AMP)

So anything above 1866 is considered overclocking. Unfortunately, it does not tell you whether 1.5v or 1.65v memory is better. You run the risk of degrading the controller if you are overvolting the ram.

Supported memory link--they list 1.65v memory as supported: »www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A75M-DG···t=Memory
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me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

I looked up the ram he would be getting, 1.6v. May just tell him to get the 1866 one instead, for simplicity.



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Stick with the 2133Mhz.

Your friend is right, stick with

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20231519



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I am looking at (2x4gb) 1866 and it seems less. »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20220706

Anyway, I wouldn't want to OC memory "only". To me.. The work doesn't justify the hassle.

In this case, I would want default'ish as much as possible for simplicity. Meaning I would stick with native speeds as much as possible.

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