 IowaCowboyWant to go back to IowaPremium
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Springfield, MA | Thinking of getting a Wii U I am thinking of getting a Wii U. Several questions
1. Is it backwards compatible with Wii games
2. Does it have an output for standard definition TV
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 BF69Premium
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Camden, TN | said by IowaCowboy:I am thinking of getting a Wii U. Several questions
1. Is it backwards compatible with Wii games
2. Does it have an output for standard definition TV
3. Opinions please: Is it worth the upgrade.
1. yes
2. Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI™, Wii Component Video, Wii S-Video Stereo AV and Wii AV.
3. If you are only going to play it on a SDTV why bother upgrading? |
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 danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | said by BF69:said by IowaCowboy:I am thinking of getting a Wii U. Several questions
1. Is it backwards compatible with Wii games
2. Does it have an output for standard definition TV
3. Opinions please: Is it worth the upgrade.
1. yes 2. Supports 1080p, 1080i, 720p, 480p and 480i. Compatible cables include HDMI™, Wii Component Video, Wii S-Video Stereo AV and Wii AV. 3. If you are only going to play it on a SDTV why bother upgrading? 1. It's not only backwards compatible, but you can transfer your saves and downloaded games from your Wii to your Wii U. Be aware that, at least in the case of downloads, once you transfer them you'll be unable to play them on the Wii. I didn't opt to do the system transfer myself, since I don't plan on getting rid of my Wii.
2. There is an output for HDMI and then the multi-out cable that comes with the Wii works as well if you don't have HDMI.
3. Yes, it's worth the upgrade. Even if you'll be playing on a standard definition set. The games are fun. The graphics are awesome too, but I appreciate the gameplay much more than the graphics. BF69, consider also that some people might move the system between multiple TVs, and not all TVs in their house might be HD. The TV in my room is HD, the TV in our living room is standard definition. If my daughter has friends over to play, I'll move the console downstairs to that TV rather than have them crowd into my bedroom. Kids are less picky about graphical quality than adults, which is why the HDTV is in my bedroom and the standard def TV is in the family room. My daughter's not old enough to appreciate the difference.
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said by IowaCowboy:3. Opinions please: Is it worth the upgrade.
Upgrade from what? From a Wii, probably. From PS3/360, no.
Honestly if you only have a wii right now, I'd buy a PS3 or 360 for cheaper and enjoy the tons of great games that never came to the Wii, most of which you can get for pretty cheap these days. Also, get an HDTV already.
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West Des Moines, IA | reply to IowaCowboy
said by IowaCowboy:3. Opinions please: Is it worth the upgrade.
I'd say this is a rather premature Q to ask. I got bored of the Wii pretty fast. The Wii U is pretty much the same with two big changes IMO: Nintendo TV and new Gamepad. Is that worth $250-$350? For me I don't know since the tech is still new. Not enough games out and none of the current content really make great use of the gamepad. |
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How old are you or do you have young kids?
I'm sure some older folk do enjoy the Wii, but generally it's for kids. I have a 360 so maybe I'm biased, but as an adult I have no desire for the Wii games.
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I'm sure some older folk do enjoy the Wii, but generally it's for kids. I have a 360 so maybe I'm biased, but as an adult I have no desire for the Wii games.
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danawhitakerSpace...The Final FrontierPremium
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Urbandale, IA | reply to TherapyChick
said by TherapyChick:How old are you or do you have young kids?
I'm sure some older folk do enjoy the Wii, but generally it's for kids. I have a 360 so maybe I'm biased, but as an adult I have no desire for the Wii games.
I'm 31, and I have both a 360 and a Wii U. It just depends on what kind of games you enjoy. I'll be the first to say that not everyone will enjoy the Wii U games. But I sort of bristle at the implied statement that you must be young (i.e. not an adult) or only have kids in order to want one. Sometimes I have more fun with it than my daughter does. I've actually found a lot of the Nintendo Land mini-games require a significant deal more patience than many young gamers would possess.
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| said by danawhitaker:said by TherapyChick:How old are you or do you have young kids?
I'm sure some older folk do enjoy the Wii, but generally it's for kids. I have a 360 so maybe I'm biased, but as an adult I have no desire for the Wii games.
I'm 31, and I have both a 360 and a Wii U. It just depends on what kind of games you enjoy. I'll be the first to say that not everyone will enjoy the Wii U games. But I sort of bristle at the implied statement that you must be young (i.e. not an adult) or only have kids in order to want one. Sometimes I have more fun with it than my daughter does. I've actually found a lot of the Nintendo Land mini-games require a significant deal more patience than many young gamers would possess. I didn't mean it to be insulting, I have a few adult friends (30's) who enjoy it, but in *general*, and could just be my opinion, most of the games are geared towards younger folk, idk, I guess I'm just digging my hole deeper and it's probably just me.
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BF69Premium
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So still a kid then.  |
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Honestly, Nintendo isn't bringing forth a device with enough processing power or video capabilities. You're honestly better off going with a PS3 or Xbox360 these days for better game libraries and potential for gaming enjoyment.
I personally have my PC and my 360, and i have no need for anything else (besides my DS and Android phone for mobile gaming).
Until Nintendo can bring some ACTUAL competition to the gaming market, my money's better spent on Microsoft in this race. |
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Just got back from the Holyoke Mall. Best Buy refused to price match BJ's who was selling the system for $344.99 and Best Buy had it for $349.99 but I had a $50 gift card to Best Buy from my aunt for Christmas (since she knows nothing about gadgets). I also had $50 from Grandma for Christmas as well. And then I got soaked by the kleptocracy of Massachusetts about $21.87 in sales tax (6.25 percent).
I think the reason Best Buy refused to price match is that BJ's is a membership based warehouse (like Sam's Club nationally) and the membership fee subsidizes the products so they are not a true competitor.
I have my Wii U Console, when I get paid again, I'll have to buy Super Mario Bros U.
At least I bought this at the beginning of the product life cycle. I made the mistake of buying the original Xbox about 6 months before it was discontinued since I know more about Nintendo.
You can tell by the comforter that I am a die hard Nintendo fan. |
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sleuthPremium
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West Des Moines, IA | reply to IowaCowboy
You have every reason in the world to purchase it if you're a Nintendo fan. |
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Urbandale, IA | reply to RedMageX
said by RedMageX:Honestly, Nintendo isn't bringing forth a device with enough processing power or video capabilities. You're honestly better off going with a PS3 or Xbox360 these days for better game libraries and potential for gaming enjoyment.
I personally have my PC and my 360, and i have no need for anything else (besides my DS and Android phone for mobile gaming).
Until Nintendo can bring some ACTUAL competition to the gaming market, my money's better spent on Microsoft in this race.
Gaming isn't all about graphics. And if you're looking for games that are generally exclusive to Nintendo consoles, then Xbox and PS3 won't have those. The reasons you give for not buying a Wii U are biased in favor of your preferences. Gaming enjoyment is in the eye of the beholder, and graphics do not necessarily equate enjoyment for all players. They do for some, and for those people, I will fully grant they're better off with a PS3 or a 360. But for people who aren't as focused on that one single area, and who might really enjoy Nintendo's library of games (and who are willing to buy into a console early knowing the launch library wasn't huge), then it's a pretty easy decision.
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I love my Wii U so far, ZombieU is amazing. I do not have a ps3 or xbox 360 since I played most games on my PC however I am looking forward to playing assassins creed 3, lego undercover, batman dark asylum, black ops, ninja gaiden, bayonetta 2, and dark siders 2. I love the controller, its very comfortable like the original large xbox controller and the graphics are just as awesome on the tablet. You can watch the zombieu trailer on amazon and get a feel for some of its capabilities. Since I played most of my games lately on pc im looking forward to using this new controller and finally playing these games console style. |
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Old school gaming, Yes, it wasn't all about graphics, back in the day, but gameplay and design. Nowadays people are expecting a good experience overall, through graphics, story telling, gameplay and the overall immersive experience.
I've felt that since the SNES/N64 era, Nintendo just lost it's Mojo over the years. Losing the exclusive rights to the Final Fantasy series (and other Square-Enix games), rinsing and repeating the same old tired franchises and just not innovating in the right ways or providing a decent console since the 90's.
Games exclusive to Nintendo now are just rehashes of the same old tired content. The "New" Super mario bros they recently released (I think for 3DS) was just a carbon copy of the previous game repackaged and resold. Why would I want to support a company that blatently treats it's customer base like idiots that wouldn't know the difference. It is just simply offensive and I wouldn't give Nintendo a penny until they change their ways and stop creating stupid gimick consoles (wiimotes and tablets?? come on!) |
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Urbandale, IA | said by RedMageX:Old school gaming, Yes, it wasn't all about graphics, back in the day, but gameplay and design. Nowadays people are expecting a good experience overall, through graphics, story telling, gameplay and the overall immersive experience.
I've felt that since the SNES/N64 era, Nintendo just lost it's Mojo over the years. Losing the exclusive rights to the Final Fantasy series (and other Square-Enix games), rinsing and repeating the same old tired franchises and just not innovating in the right ways or providing a decent console since the 90's.
Games exclusive to Nintendo now are just rehashes of the same old tired content. The "New" Super mario bros they recently released (I think for 3DS) was just a carbon copy of the previous game repackaged and resold. Why would I want to support a company that blatently treats it's customer base like idiots that wouldn't know the difference. It is just simply offensive and I wouldn't give Nintendo a penny until they change their ways and stop creating stupid gimick consoles (wiimotes and tablets?? come on!)
Again, that's your opinion. Not all "people" require awesome graphics in order to enjoy a game. I'm not a Nintendo worshiper. I appreciate and enjoy aspects of what each company has to offer. Graphics are only a tiny portion of the fun that many types of games have to offer. I've been playing the Angry Birds Trilogy for the 360. Yeah, it looks pretty, but that's the furthest thing from my mind when I'm 3-starring a level. I just finished the Cars game on the 360 too. The graphics were so-so, the camera angles were terrible, but the story and the mini-games were fun. When I'm playing Band Hero, graphics are the last thing on my mind. When my daughter and I fire up the Wii U, I don't care about graphics. I care about having fun with her. Mock the tablet all you want, but it offers a level of gameplay I've never experienced from the Xbox or Playstation in any of its forms. It gives gamers of different skill levels the opportunity to play together without one player feeling incredibly frustrated.
And mock Nintendo for rehashing the same franchises if you want, but Sony and Microsoft do the same thing too. Except they go by names like Forza and Halo and Call of Duty and Gran Turismo and iteration after iteration of the same tired sports franchises. What you're blaming Nintendo for, all the companies are guilty of. The newest Super Mario Bros for the Wii U is incredibly fun, is hard compared to older versions, and offers great co-op via the Wii U's gamepad. My daughter, who found the core game frustrating with its difficulty, *loves* helping me on the Game Pad while I play.
And, mock the gimmick aspect of the Nintendo consoles, but if it was such a stupid idea that no one liked, than why did Microsoft and Sony make sure to compete with them by pushing the Kinect and Move peripherals? I will be completely floored if at least Sony or Microsoft doesn't offer a similar controller to the Wii U's gamepad.
Again, I want to stress, I am *not* a Nintendo fangirl. It just seems like somewhere along the way some people lost the focus about what's supposed to be fun about games. If graphics are everything, why are Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo tripping all over each other to re-release rehashes of old games in their respective digital shops? Humor me and check out a release list for the last month or so. Most of it is download only content, and most of it ends up being rehashes of older games, or graphically unintensive games that also end up on smartphones. Sony in particular does a lot of this, with the Vita and PS3.
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I have a 360, PS3, wii, and now the Wii U. I can understand some of what you say about the games, but with the Wii U they are picking up the mainstream titles. And the Gamepad is actually a great little device. Being able to use the old wii remotes with the new system along with the pad is great. So far there are limited games, but the integration with the pad is way above my expectations so far. The screen on it looks great, has a built in camera, and it sounds great. Another perk? My daughter can be playing Super Mario Brothers on the pad while we are watching TV. No need to battle for TV time. Netflix, Amazon movies, Hulu, all can watch on the pad. So far I am really digging it. Also being able to add up to a 2 TB external drive is great.
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My point about franchises being rehashed is that the latest entry from the Mario franchise was an EXACT COPY of the previous game with nothing really new added to it.
The Halo, CoD Madden Warfare, Forza, Gran Turismo, Battlefield series all bring NEW things to the table. New campaigns, new multiplayer features, updated graphics. Hell, they completely revamped Halo: Combat Evolved with completely new graphics (and you can revert back to the old graphics in real time if you want) and they even say straight up it's a HD re-release of the old game.
My argument stands in that Nintendo are still rehashing franchises that are almost as old as I am. How many Mario games do we need? I don't even know how many Mario Party games their at now, but sometimes the classics (Super Smash Bros, Crono Trigger, Final Fantasy series) can be rereleased and repackaged with better graphics, or in the case of Crono Trigger, just add the FMV into it and leave the rest, and people will still buy it (Hell, I did because it's a game that stands up to the test of time).
I'm not doubting your level of enjoyment, my opinion (and I stress the word opinion) is that Nintendo needs to really step up to the plate or they will get left behind. The 3DS is a great example of poor marketing ideas, Price dropped within 3 months of initial release because nobody was buying it at the time.
I'm not saying the Wii U is a terrible console, but some of their practices over the years are questionable.
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