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HKPolice

join:2002-08-09
Scarborough, ON

reply to HKPolice

Re: [Cable] Youtube lags at night still, upgrade cache servers?

Still buffering every minute or so tonight.... Any working scripts to block the caching servers?

Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON

reply to HKPolice
Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think its TSI servers that are to blame this time - at least I dont see it in the video url, but there is something weird going on.

I noticed that all the videos that were slow were loading from the following addresses:
»r*---sn-ux3n588t-mjhe.c.youtube.com/...

Where * is a number 1-9.

All others seemed fine. I don't know if this address represents a Teksavvy cache server (I don't think so), but it does look like a youtube cache server of some sort and it seems to be having speed issues only managing about 300 KB/s - 400 KB/s.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20

reply to HKPolice
As Gabe has mentioned, YouTube does have caching hardware in TekSavvy's cage at 151 Front.
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Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON

said by Guspaz:

As Gabe has mentioned, YouTube does have caching hardware in TekSavvy's cage at 151 Front.

I know they do, but when the video loads from Teksavvy's cache, you can see it in the URL. Unless they don't display that in the URL anymore, it wasnt a TSI cache server...


xsbell

join:2008-12-22
Canada
kudos:1
Reviews:
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reply to Sanek

said by Sanek:

Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think its TSI servers that are to blame this time - at least I dont see it in the video url, but there is something weird going on.

I noticed that all the videos that were slow were loading from the following addresses:
»r*---sn-ux3n588t-mjhe.c.youtube.com/...

Where * is a number 1-9.

All others seemed fine. I don't know if this address represents a Teksavvy cache server (I don't think so), but it does look like a youtube cache server of some sort and it seems to be having speed issues only managing about 300 KB/s - 400 KB/s.

Those are all cache servers in Tek's network. (206.248.151.140 - 206.248.151.147) And there is no r9-sn-ux3n588t-mjhe.c.youtube.com, it's 1-8 only.


nupogodi
Premium
join:2012-07-10
Toronto, ON

reply to HKPolice
Have you changed your DNS servers at all?

Using a foreign DNS server will change which CDN node you connect to. You might not be connecting to the edge closest to you.

For the record, I'm having absolutely no issues here in Toronto.


HKPolice

join:2002-08-09
Scarborough, ON

said by nupogodi:

Have you changed your DNS servers at all?

Using a foreign DNS server will change which CDN node you connect to. You might not be connecting to the edge closest to you.

For the record, I'm having absolutely no issues here in Toronto.

Nope, using default TSI dns. Issues every night. It was fine a few months ago then slowly got worse over time.

HKPolice

join:2002-08-09
Scarborough, ON

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reply to HKPolice
After firing up TCP View, I realized that actually none of the youtube videos are loading from a caching server. The Tomato script I found a while ago was actually working still. All of them are being streamed directly from youtube's servers in Mountain View California.

IP ranges from 208.117.240.xxx to 208.117.251.xxx

Some of the videos load fine @ around 2MB/s without causing any buffering issues but the majority of them chug along at ~300-400KB/s which causes buffering.

I tried turning off the Anti caching script so that videos would load from TSI's cache again and guess what: the speeds are the same or slower. 206.248.151.140 - 206.248.151.147 IP range.

So I tried switching to a 16Mbit DSL I have access to and guess what: Full 2MB/s streaming no issues whatsoever.

So what does this prove?

1) Teksavvy's Youtube cache servers are overloaded and
2) Some of Teksavvy's peering is either overloaded or not functioning efficiently.

This is the Tomato script I used, in the WAN UP page:

echo > /etc/hosts
youtube=$(nslookup www.youtube.com|grep -v 127.0.0.1|grep " 1:"|awk {'print $3'})
for ls in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8;do for v in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25;do echo $youtube o-o.preferred.teksavvy-xcm1.v$v.lscache$ls.c.youtube.com >> /etc/hosts;done;done

I'm honestly surprised that there aren't any more complaints about this issue. Is everyone still watching videos in 480p or 720p?? I use youtube center script that automatically loads all vids in 1080p and every night, 90% of the videos have buffering issues which were non existent a few months ago.



jmck
formerly 'shaded'

join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON

It was supposed to be fixed last week according to gabe, but he hasn't updated this thread or responded.



TSI Gabe
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-03
Chatham, ON
kudos:2

It should be completely fixed as of this morning.


stevey_frac

join:2009-12-09
Cambridge, ON

Wppt! I'll test that theory tonight!


geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON

reply to morisato
What's the point of these Google cache servers? Does that mean there are Twitch cache servers too?

I never had problems with YouTube except for this one night.


Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON

said by geokilla:

What's the point of these Google cache servers? Does that mean there are Twitch cache servers too?

I never had problems with YouTube except for this one night.

They take the load off YouTube and save TSI money by staying within their network.


rjbrake
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Petawawa, ON

reply to geokilla
Twitch has it's own CDN, yes. It's not integrated into Teksavvy's network but they do provide multiple POP's on the Twitch/JTV network.



J E F F
Whatta Ya Think About Dat?
Premium
join:2004-04-01
Kitchener, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
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·WIND Mobile
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·magicjack.com

reply to jmck

said by jmck:

Same here and I have no last-mile/Rogers segment congestion issue. 1080p can't be played without letting it buffer quite a bit or pausing it during peak.

Bookmarking because my kid (he's 10) is gripping about youtube, he needs to know he's not the only one, and it's NOT THE LAPTOP!
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein


jmck
formerly 'shaded'

join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON

reply to TSI Gabe

said by TSI Gabe:

It should be completely fixed as of this morning.

how about twitch?

HKPolice

join:2002-08-09
Scarborough, ON

reply to TSI Gabe

said by TSI Gabe:

It should be completely fixed as of this morning.

No change tonight, same 300-400KB/s streaming.


evil_gusgus

join:2008-04-14
London, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

said by HKPolice:

said by TSI Gabe:

It should be completely fixed as of this morning.

No change tonight, same 300-400KB/s streaming.

ditto, having a hard time streaming 720p, used to be able to stream 1080p no problem.

geokilla

join:2010-10-04
North York, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable

reply to Sanek

said by Sanek:

said by geokilla:

What's the point of these Google cache servers? Does that mean there are Twitch cache servers too?

I never had problems with YouTube except for this one night.

They take the load off YouTube and save TSI money by staying within their network.

So it saves the videos onto Teksavvy's servers?


TSI Marc
Premium,VIP
join:2006-06-23
Chatham, ON
kudos:14

reply to HKPolice

said by HKPolice:

said by TSI Gabe:

It should be completely fixed as of this morning.

No change tonight, same 300-400KB/s streaming.

We're looking into this more closely. Seems there is still something afoot.
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Marc - CEO/TekSavvy
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