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JMJimmy

join:2008-07-23
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
reply to HKPolice

Re: [Cable] Youtube lags at night still, upgrade cache servers?

Here's what I can confirm:

1) The issue appears on all sites, Windows 8, FF 18, Flash versions 11.5.502.133 to 146

2) The issue does not appear on any sites, Windows 7, FF 18, Flash version 11.3.300.257

When I tested the systems were connected to the same network, videos played one after the other, no other transfers going on, playing the same video (Iron Man 3 trailer, 1080p).

so... it's still not flash eh?


HKPolice

join:2002-08-09
Scarborough, ON
reply to HKPolice

Oh god, tonight is the worst of all. Probably because it's so cold in Toronto so everyone is staying home. I can't even stream 720p without buffering.



amindofiron

@comcast.net
reply to HKPolice

has anyone else noticed it mostly happening during peak (~5-~11 Pm) hours?



creed3020
Premium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
reply to HKPolice

So far I've had no issues in Kitchener on my 28/1 TSI (Robbers) connection with 8x4 bonding using latest Google Chrome. All 1080p and 720p videos load up right away.



rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to FireHazard

I tried watching your video but it just keeps buffering


FireHazard

join:2004-09-30
Mississauga, ON
reply to HKPolice

You can add me to the master list too.
It feels like i'm on dial-up when i'm watching HD videos on youtube.

28/1 Cable in Mississauga, no other issues, except for Youtube. Tried both Tek and Google DNS servers.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPTUbRJz···youtu.be


TypeS

join:2012-12-17
London, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to vsavulian

I went to go test just now with some of the videos posted on page 4 and I was getting those buffering errors.

Ran a speedtest though, and I was getting only 5Mbit/s down on 28/1. Released/Renewed my DHCP address (in the router GUI. Power cycling the router will the same result)

Playing 1080p videos just fine now without buffering. I doubt this will help many since it seems there's some POIs out there that are heavily congested. But worth a try.



vsavulian
Premium
join:2002-11-26
ON
reply to The Mongoose

Same here. I've got an Extreme circuit on a 4x4 bonded SB6120 on the Richmond Hill POI. In the AM I can watch 1080p content without any issues while at night it's miserable.

This can't be blamed on node congestion as switching to my backup Rogers Express circuit solved the problem.


The Mongoose

join:2010-01-05
Toronto, ON

1 edit
reply to tedrampart

I'm now experiencing this issue as well. Getting 30/1 on speedtests, cannot stream YouTube at 720p.

Edit to add: Problem occurs using both Google DNS and TekSavvy DNS. No difference. Something is up.


tedrampart

join:2011-12-13
London, ON

1 edit
reply to HKPolice

woops double post..


tedrampart

join:2011-12-13
London, ON
reply to HKPolice

Just started noticing the buffering at home on my android youtube connected to wifi which is 28/1 tsi. I don't watch a lot of youtube other than on my mobile when someone sends me a link so I havent noticed til now. Last night I noticed a bunch of videos buffering in "HD" mode.. I'll check on my desktop to confirm that it's not the mobile causing it...just as soon as I muster up the energy to get out of bed



jtl999
CEO of Actiontec Dev Team

join:2012-11-24
In the GVRD
kudos:4
reply to TSI Gabe

I'm on Shaw. Not TekSavvy. Just having the same problems as everyone else.



SimGuy

join:2002-01-06
Toronto, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to HKPolice

Problems buffering those on 720p and 1080p (and many other titles on both 720/1080).

On Teksavvy DNS servers.

28/1 Cable, 8x4 Channel bonding.

Speedtest as of 2 minutes ago:



rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to BrianON

Thanks!



rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·loclhost.ca
reply to HKPolice

It's fine here in Petawawa. And if you have worse internet than I do, You should consider switching to another provider. I have 4/800 ISH with 99.99999999% occupancy and line noise up the yin-yank.

I spend every waking minute on youtube, uploading videos, watching subs, and I do full HD without difficulty. Mind you, I'm doing 4000 other things on the internet connection at the same time. But, I do not have the lag on the you tubes.


Sanek

join:2006-08-10
Kanata, ON
reply to HKPolice

Can't even play 720p video at the moment - speed test gives me over 28Mbit down at the moment, so it's not my line.

Kanata, Fallowfield POI.



jmck
formerly 'shaded'

join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Start Communicat..
reply to TSI Gabe

said by TSI Gabe:

I've just watched all of these, no buffering at all.

i'm not sure you're going about it the right way to troubleshoot this. if you're going to videos that have already been accessed by TSI users it will be cached by the time you go.


evil_gusgus

join:2008-04-14
London, ON

2 edits
reply to Nagilum

said by Nagilum:

Do we need to utilize TSI's DNS servers to take advantage of the Google Caching server?

To use the TSI cache server yes you need to use TSI's DNS servers.

Youtube works fine at Fanshawe College, so it's not Flash or HTML5 that is the problem. Currently I can load a 1080p video on 3/512k faster than on my home connection thats 28/1.

Hopefully the amazing gabe and google can figure it out

EDIT: Some videos seem to be working now :s Still defaults to 360p though.


Nagilum
Premium
join:2012-08-15
Kitchener, ON
reply to TSI Gabe

Do we need to utilize TSI's DNS servers to take advantage of the Google Caching server?
--
"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, 1993



jmck
formerly 'shaded'

join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Start Communicat..
reply to Arcturus

Here's a screenshot of what happens to me on a regular basis... altho usually it will actually buffer enough and start again, however it also just completely pauses and never resumes and doesn't get any data back until i reload the youtube video:

»cl.ly/image/3K2z1Y1Y2X1x

you can see the network graph (even as i write this it hasn't gotten any further). i will also get this at times if i try to use a youtube video download and download the mp4 file of a movie directly sometimes.


Arcturus

join:2008-04-18
London, ON
reply to HKPolice

You could also try switching your DNS, and see if that helps. In case it is a problem with the cache server.

P.S. I love watching SC2 but wow that announcer hurts my ears.
(the example videos posted)


Pampers

join:2013-01-18
reply to AOD

I am currently on Bell DSL 6mbit in Mississauga and can confirm there were issues last night watching videos. So it's not just TSI (I'm guessing).

I used to upload videos to Youtube and had channel with 100's of videos. When I uploaded an H264 Sony codec, it would buffer very slow.

When I uploaded WMV, it would buffer very quick. Same settings, same quality.

I think the truth is, none of us really know what the issue is. For this particular task of streaming video it could be so many things.

I have a *hunch*, it's the buffering is the 'QoS' that Youtube has been trying to implement the past year. Youtube no longer buffers the whole video likely to save costs.

There's also codec issues that also seem likely. This stuff is 'ever changing'.

Last night I tried to view a video that would not stream in 480p. Then I could go to another HD vid and it would play fine.

Also, I'm sure many of us have reloaded the videos and then kaboom it buffers quick. Again, this could be a Youtube buffering/logic error in the player.

I should note that last night I tried to play videos in IE, Firefox, HTML 5, Shockwave etc. - Nothing worked. Both were the same in the same player.

The last think I have not tried is playing with video card settings or 'software' rendering. Who knows the player could be 'guessing' what is happening on our end and incorrectly requesting more data to be sent through... that would be a logic error on Youtube's part. And it could be this is the core problem.

Also, I should note that on my iPad 2 which I have *NOT* updated the OS, I can stream everything fine. No stopping. It's my PC that is bad and having issues.

People who are 'Youtube heads' like me will likely notice 'more' problems than the casual YouTube user. It could also be that.

But given the evidence, I'm not sure there is a problem with TSI in specific. However.. I will say that it couldn't surprise me if this was another 'Canadian only' problem if you know what I mean...

And I have a hunch it's the latter that will just have to 'wait out' until things get better in a couple of years.

Again I'm on Bell DSL and also having issues.



TSI Andre
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Premium,VIP
join:2008-06-03
Chatham, ON
kudos:24
reply to Nemo888

I will have someone PM you shortly to gather some details.


Nemo888

join:2005-12-25
Canada
reply to HKPolice

720p Youtube is crapping out. It's been spinning for 3 mintues. Even while I did this speed test.




Ottawa West near Ikea.


AOD
Premium
join:2008-01-24
Etobicoke, ON
kudos:1
Reviews:
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reply to TSI PhilR

said by TSI PhilR:

Hey Guspaz I've added you to the list, I already have your details.

With the videos above, i also have issues streaming them in 1080p

BrianON

join:2011-09-30
Ottawa, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
reply to rodjames

said by rodjames:

I thought YT was all HTML5 now, that's why Google dropped Flash from Android?

There is a codec war for HTML5 video between H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (proprietary) and Theora/WebM (free). Some browsers support one but not the other with only a few supporting both.


rodjames
Premium
join:2010-06-19
Gloucester, ON
reply to JMJimmy

I thought YT was all HTML5 now, that's why Google dropped Flash from Android?



TSI PhilR
TSI PhilR
Premium
join:2009-01-26
Chatham, ON
reply to Guspaz

Hey Guspaz I've added you to the list, I already have your details.



jmck
formerly 'shaded'

join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL
·Start Communicat..
reply to Guspaz

i've seen no improvement since the last "fix" a few days ago too, youtube 1080ps will buffer and sometimes still timeout.

i think i'm seeing it more on obscure/non popular videos, if you're doing any testing at TSI i would make sure not to keep reloading the same video or popular videos.



Guspaz
Guspaz
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:23
reply to HKPolice

I was unable to watch 1080p videos on youtube tonight, kept buffering. I had to drop it down to 720p.
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