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Re: [Cable] Youtube lags at night still, upgrade cache servers?

reply to HKPolice
Same on Shaw in BC.
Speedtest

We don't have a Google Cache in BC. Whatever issue you have there is something else for sure.

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reply to HKPolice
I was unable to watch 1080p videos on youtube tonight, kept buffering. I had to drop it down to 720p.
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i've seen no improvement since the last "fix" a few days ago too, youtube 1080ps will buffer and sometimes still timeout.

i think i'm seeing it more on obscure/non popular videos, if you're doing any testing at TSI i would make sure not to keep reloading the same video or popular videos.

reply to Guspaz
Hey Guspaz I've added you to the list, I already have your details.

reply to JMJimmy
I thought YT was all HTML5 now, that's why Google dropped Flash from Android?

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reply to HKPolice
720p Youtube is crapping out. It's been spinning for 3 mintues. Even while I did this speed test.

I will have someone PM you shortly to gather some details.

reply to AOD
I am currently on Bell DSL 6mbit in Mississauga and can confirm there were issues last night watching videos. So it's not just TSI (I'm guessing).

I used to upload videos to Youtube and had channel with 100's of videos. When I uploaded an H264 Sony codec, it would buffer very slow.

When I uploaded WMV, it would buffer very quick. Same settings, same quality.

I think the truth is, none of us really know what the issue is. For this particular task of streaming video it could be so many things.

I have a *hunch*, it's the buffering is the 'QoS' that Youtube has been trying to implement the past year. Youtube no longer buffers the whole video likely to save costs.

There's also codec issues that also seem likely. This stuff is 'ever changing'.

Last night I tried to view a video that would not stream in 480p. Then I could go to another HD vid and it would play fine.

Also, I'm sure many of us have reloaded the videos and then kaboom it buffers quick. Again, this could be a Youtube buffering/logic error in the player.

I should note that last night I tried to play videos in IE, Firefox, HTML 5, Shockwave etc. - Nothing worked. Both were the same in the same player.

The last think I have not tried is playing with video card settings or 'software' rendering. Who knows the player could be 'guessing' what is happening on our end and incorrectly requesting more data to be sent through... that would be a logic error on Youtube's part. And it could be this is the core problem.

Also, I should note that on my iPad 2 which I have *NOT* updated the OS, I can stream everything fine. No stopping. It's my PC that is bad and having issues.

People who are 'Youtube heads' like me will likely notice 'more' problems than the casual YouTube user. It could also be that.

But given the evidence, I'm not sure there is a problem with TSI in specific. However.. I will say that it couldn't surprise me if this was another 'Canadian only' problem if you know what I mean...

And I have a hunch it's the latter that will just have to 'wait out' until things get better in a couple of years.

Again I'm on Bell DSL and also having issues.

reply to HKPolice
You could also try switching your DNS, and see if that helps. In case it is a problem with the cache server.

P.S. I love watching SC2 but wow that announcer hurts my ears.
(the example videos posted)

Here's a screenshot of what happens to me on a regular basis... altho usually it will actually buffer enough and start again, however it also just completely pauses and never resumes and doesn't get any data back until i reload the youtube video:

»cl.ly/image/3K2z1Y1Y2X1x

you can see the network graph (even as i write this it hasn't gotten any further). i will also get this at times if i try to use a youtube video download and download the mp4 file of a movie directly sometimes.

reply to TSI Gabe
Do we need to utilize TSI's DNS servers to take advantage of the Google Caching server?
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"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." - John Gilmore, 1993

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reply to HKPolice
Can't even play 720p video at the moment - speed test gives me over 28Mbit down at the moment, so it's not my line.

Kanata, Fallowfield POI.

reply to HKPolice
It's fine here in Petawawa. And if you have worse internet than I do, You should consider switching to another provider. I have 4/800 ISH with 99.99999999% occupancy and line noise up the yin-yank.

I spend every waking minute on youtube, uploading videos, watching subs, and I do full HD without difficulty. Mind you, I'm doing 4000 other things on the internet connection at the same time. But, I do not have the lag on the you tubes.