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Re: Screw that Would it not be better to...I don't know...allow people to make up their own minds about this channel's political leanings rather than simply refusing to carry it? Personally, I can't stand Fox News, but I would never advocate dropping it from cable systems simply because I don't agree with it. What's the difference? |
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| said by ISurfTooMuch:Would it not be better to...I don't know...allow people to make up their own minds about this channel's political leanings rather than simply refusing to carry it? Personally, I can't stand Fox News, but I would never advocate dropping it from cable systems simply because I don't agree with it. What's the difference? Last I looked, Fox wasn't owned by a militant government that sponsors terrorism resulting in the deaths of Americans. On the other hand, the evening "news" team at MSNBC are kind of like terrorists. -- How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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 | Unless Qatar's government has changed this morning, they have not been sponsoring terrorism, and they've been either allied with the United States or fairly neutral in most Middle East issues. And, last time I checked, we have a military base there.
I'm not going to accuse them of being a bastion of freedom and democracy, but there is no evidence that they've sponsored terrorist activity against us. If you have any, please present it. |
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| said by ISurfTooMuch:Unless Qatar's government has changed this morning, they have not been sponsoring terrorism, and they've been either allied with the United States or fairly neutral in most Middle East issues. And, last time I checked, we have a military base there.
I'm not going to accuse them of being a bastion of freedom and democracy, but there is no evidence that they've sponsored terrorist activity against us. If you have any, please present it. Yeah, Quatar just announced they were the ones responsible for 911 
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| reply to ISurfTooMuch That is somewhat of a tricky issue. I recall a while back about some whackjob being captured, and the CIA told him that they were going to turn him over to the Saudi's, who are supposed to be our allies. When he believed he was in the hands of the Saudi's, he gave his interrogator a phone number to call, who would then order his immediate release. The person who answered on the other end was a Saudi government official, I think a member of the royal family if I recall.
There's also the matter of the doctor who handed over OBL's DNA, and when he was captured by the Pakistan government, his interrogators (who worked for their government) told him that the US is the enemy, blah blah blah. All this time, Pakistan is supposedly our ally, and we give them billions in aid money each year.
Is Qatar one of these? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised. |
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 | Anything is possible, but the OP is basing his argument on his specific assertion that the Qatari government is sponsoring acts of terrorism against the United States. I simply want to know where he's getting that info. Certainly, he's entitled to his opinion, but if he's going to make a statement of fact, then he needs to state specifics and/or cite his sources. |
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| reply to ISurfTooMuch said by ISurfTooMuch:Unless Qatar's government has changed this morning, they have not been sponsoring terrorism, and they've been either allied with the United States or fairly neutral in most Middle East issues. And, last time I checked, we have a military base there.
I'm not going to accuse them of being a bastion of freedom and democracy, but there is no evidence that they've sponsored terrorist activity against us. If you have any, please present it. Your recently elected God has had them on the terrorist list since last year. The list is maintained by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) for specially designated countries (SDCs) that have shown a tendency to promote, produce or protect terrorist organizations or their members.
Who cares about our Arab "allies"? That includes Pakistan. They can barely contain their hatred for us, let alone be considered allies. Freaking liberal bullshit. -- How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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| reply to Goober No but Fox certainly supports a militant government that sponsors terrorism resulting in the death of Americans and many others.
According to Wikipedia, Al Jazeera is a privately owned utility company, not run by the government. It is also not supportive of terrorists or it would be illegal to carry it in the US (see Al Manar). And if by "mouthpiece for the Taliban" you mean having the nerve to present a viewpoint that is critical of American foreign policy I think we need a lot more media like that. If you mean something else, please be more specific. |
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| said by CXM_Splicer:No but Fox certainly supports a militant government that sponsors terrorism resulting in the death of Americans and many others.
According to Wikipedia, Al Jazeera is a privately owned utility company, not run by the government. It is also not supportive of terrorists or it would be illegal to carry it in the US (see Al Manar). And if by "mouthpiece for the Taliban" you mean having the nerve to present a viewpoint that is critical of American foreign policy I think we need a lot more media like that. If you mean something else, please be more specific. Ahhh, Wikipedia. Thanks for the info. Very useful stuff.
No, mouthpiece for the Taliban as in being the first internet site where Taliban messages (PR for you libbies) were broadcast. -- How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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 | reply to ISurfTooMuch But they are dirty brown foreigners! Of course they are terrorist commies against 'MURICA!
(don't tell him that Qatar hosts three key American military bases, numerous foreign exchange programs with American universities, the United States has an embassy in Qatar, and American presidents visit the nation from time to time and vice-versa) |
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 | reply to Goober My recently-elected God? Who would that be?
Don't hold back; tell us how you really feel. |
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| reply to Goober No problem... considering Wikipedia is miles above most Conservative media when it comes to reliable info, I have no problem citing them. 
Oooooh... 'Taliban messages' now I am scared. Please tell me these secret messages and the massive damages they caused. As I said, ANYTHING critical of America an foreign policy is considered 'terrorist' by certain nut jobs. |
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 | reply to MURICA Don't worry, I won't. It'll be our little secret.  |
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| reply to CXM_Splicer Sorry. They were Al-Queda coded messages. Do a little bit of Googling.
You must be one of the young ones that don't remember this. Or maybe are too blinded by your liberalism. I mean seriously, we wouldn't want to offend our Arab friends now would we, since we've seen so much love and support from them. -- How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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 | reply to Goober You have the most accurate username I have seen on this site.
At least you don't try and hide your stupidity. I can respect that. |
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 | reply to workablob You mean it wasn't the Illuminati? And I thought that Coast to Coast AM was a reliable source of information. After all, it comes on the same station as Rush does, and he's never wrong about anything.
I feel so confused! What to do??? |
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| reply to Goober In other words, you have no facts to back up you assertions so I should go play on Google for a while. Thanks but if you want to make wild claims YOU should be prepared to do the research.
I simply choose to not be led around by the nose and told that everything America does is great and, even if others don't like it, ultimately for the greater good. If you wish to delude yourself with that mantra that's fine but don't try to pretend it is reality. |
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| reply to MURICA Dude, not everybody who disagrees with your viewpoint is a racist. In fact my two best friends aren't even from America. One of them is Iranian (ethnic Persian) and the other is Indian (raised British with an English accent.)
This is what's wrong with politics in America, all too often when somebody disagrees with your viewpoint, people like you jump to conclusions that they must be a racist asshole who kicks puppies.
It's because of people like you that our political system is a joke. I don't even bother to vote any more because there are too many of you. The signal to noise is so low that rational thought no longer exists. |
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| reply to CXM_Splicer More than anything, I don't really care. There were assertions of coded messages being transmitted by AJ and there were many articles as to whether AJ was an AQ mouthpiece or news organization.
As I mentioned, it's your fearless leader that put Qatar on a terrorism list. You'll need to take it up with that clown. -- How nice. This country is being run by a broken record repeating the same two words over and over. Cretin. |
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 | reply to Rakeesh This guy is.
This lunatic thinks every Arab country is exactly the same and that they are all hellbent on destroying 'MURICA.
There is no reasoning with this type of person. They have no perspective. They don't understand the difference between the populations and governments of Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, etc.
What's the one thing that unites all the Arabic countries? It's pretty clearly racially motivated. |
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