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Re: Screw that That is somewhat of a tricky issue. I recall a while back about some whackjob being captured, and the CIA told him that they were going to turn him over to the Saudi's, who are supposed to be our allies. When he believed he was in the hands of the Saudi's, he gave his interrogator a phone number to call, who would then order his immediate release. The person who answered on the other end was a Saudi government official, I think a member of the royal family if I recall.
There's also the matter of the doctor who handed over OBL's DNA, and when he was captured by the Pakistan government, his interrogators (who worked for their government) told him that the US is the enemy, blah blah blah. All this time, Pakistan is supposedly our ally, and we give them billions in aid money each year.
Is Qatar one of these? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised. |
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 | Anything is possible, but the OP is basing his argument on his specific assertion that the Qatari government is sponsoring acts of terrorism against the United States. I simply want to know where he's getting that info. Certainly, he's entitled to his opinion, but if he's going to make a statement of fact, then he needs to state specifics and/or cite his sources. |
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 | But they are dirty brown foreigners! Of course they are terrorist commies against 'MURICA!
(don't tell him that Qatar hosts three key American military bases, numerous foreign exchange programs with American universities, the United States has an embassy in Qatar, and American presidents visit the nation from time to time and vice-versa) |
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| reply to MURICA Dude, not everybody who disagrees with your viewpoint is a racist. In fact my two best friends aren't even from America. One of them is Iranian (ethnic Persian) and the other is Indian (raised British with an English accent.)
This is what's wrong with politics in America, all too often when somebody disagrees with your viewpoint, people like you jump to conclusions that they must be a racist asshole who kicks puppies.
It's because of people like you that our political system is a joke. I don't even bother to vote any more because there are too many of you. The signal to noise is so low that rational thought no longer exists. |
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 | This guy is.
This lunatic thinks every Arab country is exactly the same and that they are all hellbent on destroying 'MURICA.
There is no reasoning with this type of person. They have no perspective. They don't understand the difference between the populations and governments of Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, etc.
What's the one thing that unites all the Arabic countries? It's pretty clearly racially motivated. |
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 | Turkey and Iran aren't Arabic countries.... |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium join:2012-01-26 AA169|170 kudos:2 | Shhhhh, he's on a roll. |
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 GooberPremium join:2000-12-17 Naperville, IL kudos:5 | reply to Crookshanks Shhh. You're going to ruin his rant on me being a racist. |
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 | reply to MURICA No, but they're Islamic countries, which is where I think he was going with his argument.
Still, there are nuances that have gotten lost here. For example, I think Pakistan was mentioned somewhere in this mass of posts. Is Pakistan our ally, or are they pro-Taliban? Yes. In fact, the answer depends on where you look. The thinking is that the elected government is more or less our ally. However, the military, especially the ISI, has been accused of having links with the Afghan Taliban, if not officially, then among a number of officers. So, some may ask, why did the elected government get so hostile when we killed Osama bin Laden? Well, other than the issue of our military conducting a raid inside their sovereign territory, the government may have been afraid that, had they not taken that stance, there could have been a military coup. If you doubt they were worried about that, research the "memogate" scandal, where the prime minister allegedly wanted help from the United States should the army try to stage a coup.
So, no, I don't think these countries are lost causes that we should write off as bastions of anti-American hate. Even Iran shouldn't be written off, since that country's government contains several factions that don't see eye to eye. And, if you just assume that Iran hates us because we love freedom or whatever the usual political line is, then you don't know much about our intertwined history, especially where it relates to the Shah, and what a swell guy he was.
This stuff is complex, something that I think gets lost far too often. |
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 | I think it's safe to say though that he believes all muslims are brown, which is why 'Muricans (as he puts it) don't like them. |
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| reply to MURICA These "Arabic" countries have a lot of ethnicities. Kurds, Persians, Pashtun, and many others than just Arabic.
There's no reasoning with you. From your perspective, if somebody is brown that makes them hated by every 'Murican (as you put it.) YOU have no perspective. YOU are what's wrong with American politics.
You pretend to be aware of the matters in other countries, but its obvious in your comments that you don't know a damn thing. Now get back on your bong where you belong. |
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 | reply to Rakeesh Just to make sure we're on the same page, I don't think MURICA is prejudiced against Arabs. He's making fun of what Goober posted.
At least that's my read on it. |
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