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phantasm11b
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New PC for gaming and home office use

Could I get a quick check over the following please? Let me know if you see anything I could do differently... The 16GB of RAM is in there for some CAD usage. Mostly this will be for home office and Black Ops II. Thanks.

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9
Item #: N82E16820233143 $89.99

Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811139011 $79.99

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650M 650W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Semi Modular High Performance Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139031 $104.99

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UP4 TH LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with Dual Thunderbolt
Item #: N82E16813128558 $184.99

EVGA SSC 02G-P4-3653-KR GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130841 $179.99

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
Item #: N82E16819116504 $219.99

Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Stand-Alone Drive)
Item #: N82E16820239045 $101.99

Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136533 $104.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204 $19.99

Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007 $9.99


FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
New York, NY

4 edits
For the ram. You should go for 2x8GB. So you upgrade again later to 32GB in total later on in the future if needed.

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10
$81.99
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20233246

Or

CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9
$109.99, 20% off = $87.88(if my math is right.)
+ 20% off w/ promo code EMCNJNJ43, ends 1/7
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···20233281

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That tower is ok. FYI, your mainboard Internal I/O Connectors 2 x USB 3.0 + 6 x USB 2.0. I'm not sure do you want front USB 2.0 also.

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PSU. If you going to spend that much... May I recommend you this:
SPARKLE R-FSP600-80ETN 600W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Active PFC Power Supply
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···17103085
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Thermal Compound. If you are anal about 1c. »www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi···XIGMATEK too bad the other one is out of stock.
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CPU:
Is there a Microcenter by you?
Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor
$169.99. I'm not sure whats your tax
»www.microcenter.com/product/3885···rocessor

Core i7 3770K 3.5GHz LGA 1155 Processor
$229.99 again tax isn't included:
»www.microcenter.com/product/3885···rocessor
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OS: ??
They have a promo code for Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM »promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/ja···ing.html


Ghastlyone
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reply to phantasm11b
I'd go with a cheaper motherboard, look for some deals such as the ones Fizzy linked and spend the saved money on a 660ti instead.

You can basically get one for about 100 dollars more, which you can make up in motherboard cost, etc.

The 660ti will smoke that 650 you linked.


phantasm11b
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reply to FizzyMyNizzy
No intention to OC the chip so the K series may be unnecessary. If there is another choice in mobo I'd be interested.


FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
New York, NY
Do you really need thunder bolt?


phantasm11b
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No.


FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
New York, NY
reply to Ghastlyone
said by Ghastlyone:

I'd go with a cheaper motherboard, look for some deals such as the ones Fizzy linked and spend the saved money on a 660ti instead.

You can basically get one for about 100 dollars more, which you can make up in motherboard cost, etc.

The 660ti will smoke that 650 you linked.

Pick a mainboard for him.


Ghastlyone
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»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130645

MSI Z77A-G45 $104.99 with a $10.00 rebate, so $94.99. It's got some good reviews also.

You can't beat that. Add that savings towards a 660ti and you'll have a banging rig.

OP said he isn't interested in overclocking his CPU. So if I were him, I wouldn't spend the extra money on a bomb ass motherboard that won't even be utilized to it's full potential.


phantasm11b
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said by Ghastlyone:

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130645

MSI Z77A-G45 $104.99 with a $10.00 rebate, so $94.99. It's got some good reviews also.

You can't beat that. Add that savings towards a 660ti and you'll have a banging rig.

OP said he isn't interested in overclocking his CPU. So if I were him, I wouldn't spend the extra money on a bomb ass motherboard that won't even be utilized to it's full potential.

That MSI is nice. I was just looking at this ASROCK: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13157330

What do I need realistically fot wattage on the PSU?


Ghastlyone
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said by phantasm11b:

said by Ghastlyone:

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130645

MSI Z77A-G45 $104.99 with a $10.00 rebate, so $94.99. It's got some good reviews also.

You can't beat that. Add that savings towards a 660ti and you'll have a banging rig.

OP said he isn't interested in overclocking his CPU. So if I were him, I wouldn't spend the extra money on a bomb ass motherboard that won't even be utilized to it's full potential.

That MSI is nice. I was just looking at this ASROCK: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13157330

What do I need realistically fot wattage on the PSU?

The TX650 you linked would be perfect. Actually, Newegg shows it as being $89.99 after the $10 mail in rebate.... »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···17139005


FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
New York, NY

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reply to phantasm11b
those two main board you could use the 1866ram.

now you could use the money for gtx 660 or gtx 660 ti. »www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/660?vs=647


eve
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reply to phantasm11b
said by phantasm11b:

What do I need realistically fot wattage on the PSU?

No plans to OC. Assuming you don't want to SLI/Crossfire either, you'd be safe with 500W. 550W if you want to be on the safe side. I recommend the XFX 550W


phantasm11b
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reply to FizzyMyNizzy
I made a few changes, for memory I changed to a dual channel kit and went with this:

Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX16C10B1BK2/16X
Model #:KHX16C10B1BK2/16X
Item #:N82E16820104361

For the motherboard I'm on the fence between the MSI listed above as well as the ASROCK. Right now I have the ASROCK selected though.

I've also switched out to the GTX 660 Ti for the video card:

EVGA 02G-P4-3660-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:02G-P4-3660-KR
Item #:N82E16814130809

Also looking at this case in lieu of the one previously listed. Any comments or concerns?

BitFenix Outlaw

Any need for an aftermarket CPU cooler or is the stock one good to go?


FizzyMyNizzy

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New York, NY

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For the video card. You could get the one with 2 fans instead of that leaf blower design. And the 2 fans card have higher 3D clock and boost clock. »www.newegg.com/Product/Productco···5-441-TS

I would of pick this:
GIGABYTE GV-N66TWF2-2GD GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Core Clock: 941MHz
Boost Clock: 1019Mhz
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···14125441

Evga you link is:
Core Clock 915Mhz
Boost Clock 980Mhz

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That case only have USB 2.0. I think the mainboard you are getting which ever one. They support USB 3.0?...

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They have a unknown brand PSU 80 plus gold on sale:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···2041-L0I

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That harddrive has a promo code today:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···6798-L0E
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Any need for an aftermarket CPU cooler or is the stock one good to go?

If you not going to overclock the stock one is good.

If you might plan to overclock..
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···35181015

unless you want to go air:
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···35608018
$80.99


eve
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Noctua is a fairly high end air cooler... it's also huge. I don't think many RAM sticks conflict with it unless they've got enormous heat spreaders.

Hyper 212 Evo is only $30. If you're going to spend the $90 on a Noctua, you might as well go watercooling with a H80i/H100i.

PSUs - I find them to be a crucial component. As a result, I only tend to look at highly rated names (XFX, Corsair, Seasonic to name a few). You can get more for cheaper from lesser known names but I'll shell out a few more bucks for quality parts/build.


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to phantasm11b
said by phantasm11b:

What do I need realistically fot wattage on the PSU?

This is my computer I just built

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($180.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($257.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($100.49 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Other: FSP Group AURUM 92+ Series PT-550M ($104.99)
Total: $1098.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-06 19:51 EST-0500)

Realistically speaking absolute maximum it'll use is ~350watts. At idle my UPS is showing the whole system(including monitor and all the usually connected usb devices) uses ~120watts. When I game it goes up to ~250watts. As you can see I bought 550watt PSU because I expect to keep using this system for another 3-5 or pass it down to my dad to use. With age PSU loses its efficiency so I bought it with such reserve in mind.

So what I'm saying is your PSU selection is an overkill. PSUs are the most efficient at ~20-60% of their maximum load.

You can use this website to calculate how big of a PSU you'll need »www.extreme.outervision.com/psuc···lite.jsp

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Krisnatharok
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That's a lot for an off-brand 7870, but the build should serve you well.


MxxCon

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said by Krisnatharok:

That's a lot for an off-brand 7870, but the build should serve you well.

Those all are the current prices. I got it for $189A/R in early Dec.
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Krisnatharok
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Cheapest 7870 is a $250 MSI on Newegg.
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eve
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said by Krisnatharok:

Cheapest 7870 is a $250 MSI on Newegg.

Gigabyte - $240, which would be a good choice IMO. Gigabyte has some nice cooling on their cards from what I hear. Though $40 more (after MIR) gets you a 7950. (The exact thought process that went on in my head a few months ago when I was coming up with my component list)


MxxCon

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said by Krisnatharok:

Cheapest 7870 is a $250 MSI on Newegg.

Again, I bought this card in early Dec when newegg had holiday sales. I don't know what newegg you are looking at, but I see the cheapest card for $229.99(before rebate) and 5 more other cards under $250. Cheapest MSI is $259.
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Krisnatharok
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The price has even changed since I posted that link. The cheapest 7870 is now an XFX for $210, although XFX is known for horrible customer service.

said by MxxCon:

I don't know what newegg you are looking at

Power search, filter by GPU model = 7870.
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