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jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

loud corsair HX1050

Just got a HX1050 PSU when playing a game the fan ramp up. When it does its loud. should I be looking for another PSU.


Hank
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If it annoys you I would say yes.



Krisnatharok
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reply to jchambers28
Why the fuck did you get a 1050w PSU? Are you running tri-SLI?

That's like putting a microwave in your computer case.



FizzyMyNizzy

join:2004-05-29
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reply to jchambers28
return it.



Dream Killer
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reply to jchambers28
1000w psus dont usually speed the fan up until they're about at 70% capacity.

you're probably hearing your video card.



signmeuptoo
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reply to jchambers28
Indeed, he should know about such as that by now though, chambers, have you even opened the case and actually checked this? Why on earth did you get such a high wattage unit? I wish you'd follow the advice people keep giving you.



jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

because I got on sale cheaper then usual I paid $140 for it.



Krisnatharok
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So?



Dream Killer
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reply to jchambers28
I forgot to ask, what's the spec of the system?



koitsu
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reply to signmeuptoo

said by signmeuptoo:

Indeed, he should know about such as that by now though, chambers, have you even opened the case and actually checked this? Why on earth did you get such a high wattage unit?

Because he, like a good majority of the "enthusiasts" crowd, is the exact type of person/demographic that marketing departments cater to. What this has resulted in is the following mentalities:

1) "Bigger numbers are better"
2) "I always want the best and {what I think to be} top of the line"
3) "I can't find any reviews of the product for any other model than the biggest one"
4) "I'd better not chance it"

Item (1) became a serious issue starting with the megahertz wars, which was happening at about the same time (roughly 1999 or so) when the Web and online activities were really beginning to take off -- and "enthusiasts" have never been able to distance themselves from that history. It is embedded even in the brains of the young. It's akin to the blast processing that Sega marketing created in the 80s. I'm sure I could work a car analogy in here somewhere too (such as "car enthusiast" wackos who think performance is all about torque).

Item (2) is, well... it applies to everything pretty much, not just computing. Too long to go into here.

Item (3) is a direct result of PR and marketing control; the way most popular/mainstream review sites work is that the reviewers ask Company X for Product Y to review, or sometimes Company X offers. In return, there's an exchange of revenue, or if not, bare minimum, an unspoken agreement established between the two -- "give our product good reviews and you'll keep getting free products from us to review". The driving force here is one thing: money. Review sites are often littered with ads (as someone who did hosting for 18 years the costs can add up real quick) to bring in money to pay for the site and/or act as a sole form of income for the site founder(s), while simultaneously Company X is making more money because Product Y is now selling like hot cakes. I cannot tell you how many times I've tried to find reviews of specific models of products only to find that their costs-3x-more-for-no-good-reason counterpart is the only one reviewed everywhere. This is why any reviews I've done, for example, are done with money coming out of my own pocket -- no outside influences. Of course, given my scathing opinion of most products these days, I imagine I'd be a thorn in the sides of most companies. Heh.

Item (4) is understandable to some degree; you know the saying "ignorance is bliss". We have to admit possibly jchambers28 See Profile bought a high-wattage PSU because maybe down the line he wanted something like a dual-card setup with cards that have dual GPUs on them (i.e. power hungry). That may or may not be the case though. But my point is that forward thinking is sometimes justified. It depends on the person; yeah, I know how him and Oleg See Profile are, but on this item I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Bottom line -- marketing caters to the "enthusiast" crowd for one reason: they know these folks have money burning holes in their wallets. My minimalist attitude conflicts with this greatly, not to mention my moral fibre, but at the same time if I turn off my opinions there is the fact of the matter that their money is their money, even if not wisely spent.

Anyway, back to the tech part of this. It's possible that his PSU fan kicks on (if it is the PSU fan) not so much as a result of the PSU itself being high wattage, but as a result of how much power he's drawing from it. It would really help to get a full inventory of what all the system consists of (motherboard, video cards, drives, external devices, everything). Putting a Kill-A-Watt metre in front of the PSU would also be wise -- when the fan kicks on, look at the wattage draw and see if you can correlate the two. If the PSU is drawing, say, 700W, then it's time to figure out what's drawing that much power and why.
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Krisnatharok
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Re: loud corsair HX1050

This forum has repeatedly tried to give this user advice. He asks for, receives, then ignores it. Or comes from the outfield with an oddball purchasing decision, like this one.
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Krisnatharok
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reply to koitsu
Great post, Koitsu. You encapsulated the mindset perfectly. #4 is the most common explanation. Power requirements can be a bit fuzzy, as only GPUs and CPUs have readily available consumption limits, so many people "play it safe" by buying a much larger PSU than they need. At best, it's spending a little extra for peace of mind, but becomes wasteful at the extreme end.

A possible fifth explanation would be that the consumer misunderstands how a power supply functions, and believes that a 1000w PSU will make a computer "run better" than a 600w or 800w PSU, and deals with it like a free ram upgrade ("hey, I might not use 8 GB, but it's only $40 to go to 16GB! future-proofing!").

And yet the trend for video card TDPs is to fall as manufacturers put out increasingly efficient cards (look at the GTX 480 vs. GTX 680).
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jchambers28

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here is the wattage limits 686 watts. I only load a PSU to 80% of its capacity. they start really getting loud.


koitsu
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And how much power is your system actually using when the PSU fan kicks on (again, assuming it is the PSU fan)? Kill-A-Watt metre, dude.
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jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

500 watts. I own a kill a watt meter.



Krisnatharok
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500w at the wall = ? to the PC? 416w?



jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

500 watts being pulled from the wall.



Krisnatharok
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And an 80 PLUS PSU is >80% efficient, sooo....



jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

the old 80 plus silver units are gone and the 80 plus gold units are here.


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