 TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
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| [OS X] Time Machine ErrorHi:
I have 2 3TB Time Capsules gigabit connected and one Seagate 3TB Hard disk Thunderbolt connected for TM backups. I have a second identical Seagate drive which I swap out each month and store off-site. This has been working well for me for 3 months now. Today I received the following TM error:
Files can’t be copied onto the backup disk because it appears to be read-only.
Latest successful backup: Yesterday, 5:48 PM
Bob$ cd /Volumes/Seagate\ 3TB/
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ ls -al
total 2112
drwxrwxr-x 15 Bob staff 578 Dec 3 22:42 .
drwxrwxrwt@ 6 root admin 204 Jan 7 11:40 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 6148 Jan 7 11:30 .DS_Store
drwx------ 5 Bob staff 170 Nov 29 00:06 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwt@ 3 Bob staff 102 Dec 3 15:56 .TemporaryItems
d-wx-wx-wt 2 Bob staff 68 Nov 29 00:06 .Trashes
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 925820 Jun 27 2012 .VolumeIcon.icns
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 311 Dec 3 15:56 .apdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 Bob staff 0 Nov 29 00:09 .com.apple.timemachine.supported
-rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 737 Nov 29 07:08 .disk_label
drwx------ 113 Bob staff 3842 Jan 7 11:40 .fseventsd
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 Backups.backupdb
-rwxr-xr-x@ 1 root wheel 115716 Sep 18 22:12 tmbootpicker.efi
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ touch test
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ ls -al
total 2112
drwxrwxr-x 16 Bob staff 612 Jan 7 11:41 .
drwxrwxrwt@ 6 root admin 204 Jan 7 11:40 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 6148 Jan 7 11:30 .DS_Store
drwx------ 5 Bob staff 170 Nov 29 00:06 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwt@ 3 Bob staff 102 Dec 3 15:56 .TemporaryItems
d-wx-wx-wt 2 Bob staff 68 Nov 29 00:06 .Trashes
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 925820 Jun 27 2012 .VolumeIcon.icns
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 311 Dec 3 15:56 .apdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 Bob staff 0 Nov 29 00:09 .com.apple.timemachine.supported
-rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 737 Nov 29 07:08 .disk_label
drwx------ 113 Bob staff 3842 Jan 7 11:40 .fseventsd
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 Backups.backupdb
-rw-r--r-- 1 Bob staff 0 Jan 7 11:41 test
-rwxr-xr-x@ 1 root wheel 115716 Sep 18 22:12 tmbootpicker.efi
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ rm test
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ ls -al
total 2112
drwxrwxr-x 15 Bob staff 578 Jan 7 11:41 .
drwxrwxrwt@ 6 root admin 204 Jan 7 11:40 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 6148 Jan 7 11:30 .DS_Store
drwx------ 5 Bob staff 170 Nov 29 00:06 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwt@ 3 Bob staff 102 Dec 3 15:56 .TemporaryItems
d-wx-wx-wt 2 Bob staff 68 Nov 29 00:06 .Trashes
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 925820 Jun 27 2012 .VolumeIcon.icns
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 311 Dec 3 15:56 .apdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 Bob staff 0 Nov 29 00:09 .com.apple.timemachine.supported
-rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 737 Nov 29 07:08 .disk_label
drwx------ 113 Bob staff 3842 Jan 7 11:40 .fseventsd
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 Backups.backupdb
-rwxr-xr-x@ 1 root wheel 115716 Sep 18 22:12 tmbootpicker.efi
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$
Disk Utility finds no problem with the device.
Any ideas?
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kitsune
join:2001-11-26
Sacramento, CA | If the drive is connected directly to the computer via USB try and see if the ignore ownership is turned on. Having that turned on will usually resolve that issue. Otherwise I would try repairing permissions on the drive.
Also, FYI, just because you have write access to the root folder doesn't necessarily mean you have access to the necessary subfolder. |
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 ThinkdiffPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:6 | reply to TamaraB
Looks like your Backups.backupdb folder is owned by root, making it read-only for you. I'm not sure if those is the correct permissions (don't have my TM drive connected right now), but you can try changing it temporarily to see if it starts working.
You may also have to do a recursive change if all subfolders are also incorrect.
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TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
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said by kitsune:If the drive is connected directly to the computer via USB try and see if the ignore ownership is turned on. Having that turned on will usually resolve that issue. Otherwise I would try repairing permissions on the drive.
Ignore ownership would adversely affect recovery, as files being recovered would not have the proper uid/gid. Yes?
Repair permissions on the drive ran without anything being repaired. However, afterwards, the TM started up properly on that drive. As far as I can see, all perms are as they were before, including the root-owned dirs.
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ ls -al
total 2112
drwxrwxr-x 15 Bob staff 578 Jan 7 11:41 .
drwxrwxrwt@ 6 root admin 204 Jan 7 19:55 ..
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 6148 Jan 7 11:30 .DS_Store
drwx------ 5 Bob staff 170 Nov 29 00:06 .Spotlight-V100
drwxrwxrwt@ 3 Bob staff 102 Dec 3 15:56 .TemporaryItems
d-wx-wx-wt 2 Bob staff 68 Nov 29 00:06 .Trashes
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 925820 Jun 27 2012 .VolumeIcon.icns
-rw-r--r--@ 1 Bob staff 311 Dec 3 15:56 .apdisk
-rw-r--r-- 1 Bob staff 0 Nov 29 00:09 .com.apple.timemachine.supported
-rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 737 Nov 29 07:08 .disk_label
drwx------ 117 Bob staff 3978 Jan 7 14:23 .fseventsd
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 Backups.backupdb
-rwxr-xr-x@ 1 root wheel 115716 Sep 18 22:12 tmbootpicker.efi
Roberts-iMac:Seagate 3TB Bob$ cd Backups.backupdb/
Roberts-iMac:Backups.backupdb Bob$ ls -al
total 0
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 .
drwxrwxr-x 15 Bob staff 578 Jan 7 11:41 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 root staff 102 Nov 29 07:08 .RecoverySets
drwx------ 2 root staff 68 Dec 5 18:25 .spotlight_repair
drwx------ 2 root staff 68 Jan 7 18:57 .spotlight_temp
drwxr-xr-x@ 13 root staff 442 Jan 7 18:57 Robert’s iMac
Roberts-iMac:Backups.backupdb Bob$ cd Robert’s\ iMac/
Roberts-iMac:Robert’s iMac Bob$ ls -al
total 16
drwxr-xr-x@ 13 root staff 442 Jan 7 18:57 .
drwxr-xr-x+ 6 root staff 204 Nov 29 07:08 ..
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Nov 29 07:08 2012-11-29-070853
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Dec 6 00:29 2012-12-06-002937
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Dec 9 00:52 2012-12-09-005255
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 2 13:09 2013-01-02-130913
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 3 04:00 2013-01-03-040039
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 4 00:48 2013-01-04-004845
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 5 01:49 2013-01-05-014937
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 6 00:52 2013-01-06-005232
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 7 11:41 2013-01-07-114154
drwxr-xr-x@ 8 root staff 272 Jan 7 18:57 2013-01-07-185749
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 17 Jan 7 18:57 Latest -> 2013-01-07-185749
It's fixed, but I don't know or understand why! Also, apparently the root ownership is correct.
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"Remember, remember the fifth of November.
Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I see no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot."
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people"
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See,.........
this kind of situation is EXACTLY why I won't use Apples Icandy Time Machine for 'mission critical' backups!! |
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kitsune
join:2001-11-26
Sacramento, CA | reply to TamaraB
said by TamaraB:said by kitsune:If the drive is connected directly to the computer via USB try and see if the ignore ownership is turned on. Having that turned on will usually resolve that issue. Otherwise I would try repairing permissions on the drive.
Ignore ownership would adversely affect recovery, as files being recovered would not have the proper uid/gid. Yes? Actually, that setting is what is recommended by Apple. See this article: »support.apple.com/kb/HT5096 |
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ThinkdiffPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:6 | Read that again.. It says it should not be checked.
TamaraB is correct. You'll lose all of the file ownership in the backp if you enable that.
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