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Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
Cobden, IL
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·Mediacom
reply to kelley3249

Re: [IA] Pace HD DVR

said by kelley3249:

said by Anonymous:

That one is a little bit better but I still recommend using component/composite cables and not using HDMI at all.

Why not use HDMI? Do they cause problems?

If you use composite cabling you will NOT get a HD picture. And if you use component cables you will have to use a separate cable for the audio. And if you use a Home Theater Audio Receiver then it becomes a huge pain in the butt to use component cabling along with separate audio cable.

HDMI is the standard for HD and DD5.1 audio. One should not have to use any other type of cabling. Unless you want to go back to the 90's technology.

There is no problem with modern HDMI, there may be a problem with old Mediacom equipment that was made to ancient standards.

GLIMMER

join:2004-01-17
Fisher, IL
said by Lazy Senior:

said by kelley3249:

said by Anonymous:

That one is a little bit better but I still recommend using component/composite cables and not using HDMI at all.

Why not use HDMI? Do they cause problems?

If you use composite cabling you will NOT get a HD picture. And if you use component cables you will have to use a separate cable for the audio. And if you use a Home Theater Audio Receiver then it becomes a huge pain in the butt to use component cabling along with separate audio cable.

HDMI is the standard for HD and DD5.1 audio. One should not have to use any other type of cabling. Unless you want to go back to the 90's technology.

There is no problem with modern HDMI, there may be a problem with old Mediacom equipment that was made to ancient standards.

hence why they should invest in new equipment. You sell hd service then tell the customer please dont use the hdmi port. Then what good is hd. Remember composites are only good to 1080i so you can't get 1080p. again mediacom is using old stuff and expects the customer to be stupid and take it.

also Dtv no dvr boxes only cost 99 to own them. I had to do this for my business. Maybe different for home but still.


Anonymous
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IA
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HDMI is preferred however if you get an older Pace HD DCT it may not work. Mediacom is broadcasting in 1080i only and component cables are considered HD ready. You as a customer can always go to your local office and have them check if they have a better DCT.

Tech don't get that. They have to use whatever they get.
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drslash
Goya Asma
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Marion, IA
said by Anonymous:

HDMI is preferred however if you get an older Pace HD DCT it may not work. Mediacom is broadcasting in 1080i only and component cables are considered HD ready. You as a customer can always go to your local office and have them check if they have a better DCT.

Tech don't get that. They have to use whatever they get.

Are cables supplied by Mediacom?

If I had an HD DCT and the HDMI failed I would call customer service and expect another HD DCT with working HDMI be installed. Isn't this how a typical equipment failure would be handled?
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Anonymous
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Yes. But I have no choice but to use whatever equipment I was issued. When there is a shortage of HD equipment they will issue whatever they have. Do you really think I like installing old DCTs in people's homes?

They no longer get these DCTs. All of the newer ones have zero problems with HDMI. in Des Moines there was no HD equipment at all for most of December. At this time they are completely out of HD equipment again. They have NONE.
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Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
Cobden, IL
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reply to GLIMMER
said by GLIMMER:

Remember composites are only good to 1080i so you can't get 1080p.

NOT TRUE. USE Google for correct answers not Anonymous posters on a forum or Mediacom Techs. Composite video outputs only support SD up to 480i. Component Video outputs will support HD up to 1080P. This depends on the TV and source but the standard is 1080P capable I have tested Component video vs HDMI video many times and I see little difference. Of course component video does not carry the audio signal and component uses 3 cables.

If your goal is HD video do not use composite video outputs!!!!!!


Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
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reply to Anonymous
said by Anonymous:

in Des Moines there was no HD equipment at all for most of December. At this time they are completely out of HD equipment again. They have NONE.

This begs the Question: Why in the world would ANYONE want Mediacom TV Service? Am I the only one that hates SD video.

kelley3249

join:2012-07-03
Dubuque, IA
reply to Anonymous
said by Anonymous:

They no longer get these DCTs. All of the newer ones have zero problems with HDMI. in Des Moines there was no HD equipment at all for most of December. At this time they are completely out of HD equipment again. They have NONE.

Wow, that is just absurd for a CABLE COMPANY.

GLIMMER

join:2004-01-17
Fisher, IL
reply to Lazy Senior
said by Lazy Senior:

said by GLIMMER:

Remember composites are only good to 1080i so you can't get 1080p.

NOT TRUE. USE Google for correct answers not Anonymous posters on a forum or Mediacom Techs. Composite video outputs only support SD up to 480i. Component Video outputs will support HD up to 1080P. This depends on the TV and source but the standard is 1080P capable I have tested Component video vs HDMI video many times and I see little difference. Of course component video does not carry the audio signal and component uses 3 cables.

If your goal is HD video do not use composite video outputs!!!!!!

hey i ment component and put composite lol I still only use hdmi cables heck there cheap these days.

kelley3249

join:2012-07-03
Dubuque, IA
reply to kelley3249
I am done with MC TV. I am on my 3rd Pace DVR with them and they are all just old piles of junk with very limited memory. I can't wait years for MediaCom to get new equipment. Thank you MediaComChad for trying.

With my promotions ending it is cheaper for me to switch to D-TV. They have MUCH better equipment. (whole house DVR anyone!) Their interface/guide on the DVR is better and easier to use. Equitable programming package is cheaper. I have been with MC since 2005 but there is just no reason for me to stay at this point.

k9iua6

join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
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reply to Lazy Senior
said by Lazy Senior:

This begs the Question: Why in the world would ANYONE want Mediacom TV Service? Am I the only one that hates SD video.

I don't mind SD. Only one of our four TVs is an HD set (and even that is only a 32 inch), with all the rest being older equipment with 27 inch or smaller screens. In trying to save money, including still using old VHS recorders instead of paying the extra for a DVR, SD is acceptable. SD really only looks crappy on an HD TV; on a older TV, it still looks fine. My beef with SD is with getting center-cropped content of HD programming, and not getting letter-boxed pictures, but that is not Mediacom's call and actually in the hands of the content provider to determine.


Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
Cobden, IL
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reply to kelley3249
said by kelley3249:

I am done with MC TV. I am on my 3rd Pace DVR with them and they are all just old piles of junk with very limited memory.

What is really bothersome about this whole thread is that MC Techs apparently have no problem using a composite connection for thier HD cable boxes. And if they do not have HD boxes, then just give em a SD box. The really sad thing is some nontechnical MC customer will buy a brand new state of the art HD TV and have some MC tech give them a HD box and then hook it up with composite cables telling them not to use HDMI cables. Unbelievable. And then that poor non-technical MC customer brags to everyone what a great HD picture they have. Sad, really Sad...........


Anonymous
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IA
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Are you senile or something? Where did I mention using composite cable for HD? I said component/composite as in component (RGB) for video and composite (red and white) for audio.

Mediacom considers this setup to be HD ready (and it is since at this time Mediacom does not have any 1080p channels). I use HDMI or component/composite and if someone has a problem with this setup they are free to check with local office to see if they can get HDMI cable. I don't have time for that. Keep in mind that in some rural areas the office is several hours away.
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k9iua6

join:2004-05-23
Dubuque, IA
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Eventually we will be forced into needing HDMI connections to be used because TV manufacturers are removing extra composite and component jacks from sets, especially on lower-end models. When I was recently pricing HD TVs in the 37 to 42 inch range, most of what I was finding now seem to come with just a single set of jacks for use as either composite or component (as opposed to two complete sets of each type as my four year old 32 inch Visio has).


Anonymous
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Oh I know that but hopefully these DCTs won't be in the field when that time comes.
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Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
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reply to Anonymous
said by Anonymous:

I said component/composite as in component (RGB) for video and composite (red and white) for audio.

Go back and re-read your original post. It is fuzzy at best. Also using composite for audio eliminates decoding DD5.1 audio. DD 5.1 (Dolby Digital) requires either a optical connection, coaxial digital connection or HDMI.

I am assuming that Mediacom passes the DD 5.1 audio. The majority of audio on HD channels is DD 5.1. If one uses a Home Theater system the difference between DD 5.1 and stereo audio is dramatic. All recent Audio Receivers and Higher end TVS will decode DD 5.1. Yet another reason to use the HDMI connection.


Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
Cobden, IL
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reply to k9iua6
said by k9iua6:

Eventually we will be forced into needing HDMI connections to be used because TV manufacturers are removing extra composite and component jacks from sets, especially on lower-end models.

Content producers hate component/composite connections because they do not support copy protection. HDMI has copy protection, hence the people making the movies want to force you to use HDMI.


Anonymous
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IA
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reply to Lazy Senior
I'm just telling you what's considered HD ready. Yes you can get optical audio cable and HDMI and use your surround system and all that but we were not talking about that. Most audio systems use only HDMI from the DCT into the surround system and HDMI out to TV.

I don't mess with customer equipment, you wanna hook it up that's cool. I don't even use Logitech remotes that most people have. I stick with our stuff and if you want to set up your system you can always get Geek squad to do it. But again not something that I have to deal with.
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Lazy Senior

join:2012-01-10
Cobden, IL
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said by Anonymous:

But again not something that I have to deal with.

You should not have to deal with it. OTOH a Tech should not tell customers not to use HDMI.

FWIW Directv does not provide HDMI cables for their equipment. They will give you composite cables for hookup even on their HD boxes. However the Tech will tell you upfront that if you do not use HDMI you will not get a HD picture/DD5.1 audio. He may also try to sell you a HDMI cable for $50 "under the Table".
This makes the Tech a nice profit because you can buy them for under $10 at Amazon...


Anonymous
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Mediacom actually provides HDMI cables when they have them. For free. I don't recommend using component cable IF you can use HDMI. But with that specific DCT I recommend using component cable because HDMI port either already failed or it will soon.
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DJ
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reply to Lazy Senior
said by Lazy Senior:

said by Anonymous:

But again not something that I have to deal with.

FWIW Directv does not provide HDMI cables for their equipment. They will give you composite cables for hookup even on their HD boxes. However the Tech will tell you upfront that if you do not use HDMI you will not get a HD picture/DD5.1 audio. He may also try to sell you a HDMI cable for $50 "under the Table".
This makes the Tech a nice profit because you can buy them for under $10 at Amazon...

Wrong, very wrong. DirecTV requires HDMI connection when the customer has the conection for it. The HDMI cables are provided free for all techs, as many as necessary. They are issued to techs in large quantities to ensure they never run out.

If a tech is trying to profit from these cables, it should be reported.


Lazy Senior

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said by DJ:

Wrong, very wrong. DirecTV requires HDMI connection when the customer has the conection for it.

The HDMI cables are provided free for all techs

I have had 2 or 3 different HD DTV installs in the last 8 years. I have never been offered a free HDMI cable. My last install 12 months ago I was told by the installer that both HD DVR's (HR24 and HR34) did not come with HDMI cables. I watched the Tech open both (brand new sealed) boxes and there was no HDMI cable included. However the Tech just happened to have some in the truck...

I had my own HDMI cables which the tech used. It might be wrong but it is happening..


DJ
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said by Lazy Senior:

My last install 12 months ago I was told by the installer that both HD DVR's (HR24 and HR34) did not come with HDMI cables. I watched the Tech open both (brand new sealed) boxes and there was no HDMI cable included. However the Tech just happened to have some in the truck...

I had my own HDMI cables which the tech used. It might be wrong but it is happening..

Correct, the receivers are not packaged with HDMI, neither do they include component or composite cables. Not even a remote control! All of those items are supplied separately so the techs can use them only as needed. A few years ago DirecTV realized the vast amount of new cables and remotes being thrown away because they weren't needed on every job. Thus the reason why everything is packaged separately.

It's not a scam by any means. However if a tech is profiting off something we're supposed to be offering for free, it needs to be reported.

kelley3249

join:2012-07-03
Dubuque, IA
reply to SportsJunkie
I turned in my DVR and other boxes today and cancelled my TV service today. I am keeping internet and phone with them. Do they decrease my speeds since I don't have all three services?


IowaMan
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Grinnell, IA
reply to Anonymous
Damn it Time for a box swap), (Yes I have a silver one that has it's paint peeling off of it)


Anonymous
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IA
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reply to kelley3249
VIP was 15 Mbit down and new prime hsd is also 15. But your service will be capped.
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drslash
Goya Asma
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Marion, IA
said by Anonymous:

VIP was 15 Mbit down and new prime hsd is also 15. But your service will be capped.

The service will only be capped if the subscriber is not grandfathered in prior to cap implementation on 8/1/2012.

kelley3249

join:2012-07-03
Dubuque, IA
I have been an internet customer since 2005. I would guess that grandfather's me in then....?? Not that I would come close to hitting any sort of cap limit!


Anonymous
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You had HSD VIP and now you changed it to HSD Prime. So now you have capped service.
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drslash
Goya Asma
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Marion, IA
said by Anonymous:

You had HSD VIP and now you changed it to HSD Prime. So now you have capped service.

Not according to Chad. He has stated more than once in the forum that a change to TV service does not affect HSD grandfathered status.